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[nina]

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I meant to add that  I am not saying that IMO we should necessarily discard dogs with double teeth I am just interested why we consider bite out by 2mm as unacceptable, but weird tooth OK?

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In my mind 2mm out in a bite can then make the bite either overshot, undershot or a level bite depending where obviously the 2mm out is which then detracts from what the standard asks for a scissor bite.

A double tooth in most cases does not detract from the required scissor bite in any way, thus not going against what the standard is asking for in the scissor bite.

Just my opinion of course & im sure there are different views on this

 

[doris]

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Ahem to that :- "

IMO having a whippet of correct size, does not necessarily make it a correct whippet, its just ticking one of the boxes - unfortunately, its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . .

but remember, size isn't everything!!!

Of course, we would all love to have dogs under 20" and bitches under 18.5" - but then we would all love perfect movement, flowing curves, scissor bites, rose ears, etc . . . . . . :- "

I'm sure there will be some of you who are saying that your whippets meet the standard - but if you do, then I guess you are in the unique position of saying that you do own the perfect whippet :cheers:

 

[parnew]

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Ahem to that :- "

IMO having a whippet of correct size, does not necessarily make it a correct whippet, its just ticking one of the boxes - unfortunately, its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . .

but remember, size isn't everything!!!

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If the size stands out as you say "its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . . " then I would think that as a breeder you would start with this and get it right before you worry to much about teeth shape and ear shape keeping in mind all aspects of the whippet standard when breeding as size is a "big" problem. As a judge the first things they teach you is hall marks of the breed and you should be able to identify the breed as it enters the ring, not thinking that is a half bred greyhound.

I have three bitches that we show all under 18.5 inches and the dog is 20.25 inches just a tad big but the other older dog we have now pet homed was 21, so slowly we are getting the boys down. I know its hard but we need to work on getting all things close to the standard, for me bad fronts and movement are as bad as height as I'm sick to death of judges saying "Lovely whippet and loved the movement BUT just a bit BIG for me". :thumbsup:

 

[T Hoare]

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Ahem to that :- "

IMO having a whippet of correct size, does not necessarily make it a correct whippet, its just ticking one of the boxes - unfortunately, its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . .

but remember, size isn't everything!!!

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If the size stands out as you say "its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . . " then I would think that as a breeder you would start with this and get it right before you worry to much about teeth shape and ear shape keeping in mind all aspects of the whippet standard when breeding as size is a "big" problem. As a judge the first things they teach you is hall marks of the breed and you should be able to identify the breed as it enters the ring, not thinking that is a half bred greyhound.

I have three bitches that we show all under 18.5 inches and the dog is 20.25 inches just a tad big but the other older dog we have now pet homed was 21, so slowly we are getting the boys down. I know its hard but we need to work on getting all things close to the standard, for me bad fronts and movement are as bad as height as I'm sick to death of judges saying "Lovely whippet and loved the movement BUT just a bit BIG for me". :thumbsup:

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When I had a bitch which was 18.5 inches The top end of the standard, I kept getting comments she was too small :blink:

 

[affieluver]

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Ahem to that :- "

IMO having a whippet of correct size, does not necessarily make it a correct whippet, its just ticking one of the boxes - unfortunately, its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . .

but remember, size isn't everything!!!

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If the size stands out as you say "its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . . " then I would think that as a breeder you would start with this and get it right before you worry to much about teeth shape and ear shape keeping in mind all aspects of the whippet standard when breeding as size is a "big" problem. As a judge the first things they teach you is hall marks of the breed and you should be able to identify the breed as it enters the ring, not thinking that is a half bred greyhound.

I have three bitches that we show all under 18.5 inches and the dog is 20.25 inches just a tad big but the other older dog we have now pet homed was 21, so slowly we are getting the boys down. I know its hard but we need to work on getting all things close to the standard, for me bad fronts and movement are as bad as height as I'm sick to death of judges saying "Lovely whippet and loved the movement BUT just a bit BIG for me". :thumbsup:

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When I had a bitch which was 18.5 inches The top end of the standard, I kept getting comments she was too small :blink:

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i find that also tracy my bitch is just shy of 18 inches and i feel like im showing a chihuahua compared to some i also feel sometimes im not placed because of her size but maybe im just being paranoid :blink:

 

[rls22]

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Ahem to that :- "

IMO having a whippet of correct size, does not necessarily make it a correct whippet, its just ticking one of the boxes - unfortunately, its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . .

but remember, size isn't everything!!!

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If the size stands out as you say "its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . . " then I would think that as a breeder you would start with this and get it right before you worry to much about teeth shape and ear shape keeping in mind all aspects of the whippet standard when breeding as size is a "big" problem. As a judge the first things they teach you is hall marks of the breed and you should be able to identify the breed as it enters the ring, not thinking that is a half bred greyhound.

I have three bitches that we show all under 18.5 inches and the dog is 20.25 inches just a tad big but the other older dog we have now pet homed was 21, so slowly we are getting the boys down. I know its hard but we need to work on getting all things close to the standard, for me bad fronts and movement are as bad as height as I'm sick to death of judges saying "Lovely whippet and loved the movement BUT just a bit BIG for me". :thumbsup:

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When I had a bitch which was 18.5 inches The top end of the standard, I kept getting comments she was too small :blink:

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It's the same with Ruby Tracy, even though she is almost 19", she has had critiques saying that she is too small :rant:

 

[doris]

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If the size stands out as you say "its one that is very easy to point out as incorrect . . . " then I would think that as a breeder you would start with this and get it right before you worry to much about teeth shape and ear shape keeping in mind all aspects of the whippet standard when breeding as size is a "big" problem.

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But that's my point - it's not as simple as starting with size, getting that right, then worrying about the rest! What I'm saying is, size is an easy target, you will often hear people criticising whippets who are taller than the standard, sometimes these people don't see or even understand other (quite often major :- " ) faults