What Would You Do ?

[saraquele]

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on my other post re. the whippet boy who needs a new home , someone put that it was wrong for the owners to ask a price for a pup they need to home .

what do you do if you take a pup back ?

is there a set etiquette (sp) as in do you not refund any of the money etc ?

im not having a dig at any body :b

was just wondering if there was a hard and fast rule if a pup was returned to the breeder :thumbsup:

as ive never bred a litter before ive no idea :- "

just thought it may be an intresting topic :b

 

[Windsdream]

I have just recently bred my first litter :wub:

I have said to my new owner's, and put it all in writeing that if at ANY time in the dog's life they are no longer able to keep him or her, they are to be returned to me no question's asked, and a FULL refund will be given.

That's just what i personally wanted to do :thumbsup:

 

[Kath]

Saraquele, I was not having a dig at you when I said it made me angry. To be honest I don't know if there is a rule about this at all. I am not a breeder and I do not know how things work in the pedigree world. All I meant was, that surely the needs and welfare of the dog come first. This is my personal opinion and nothing else. God forbid that I ever had to let my dogs go (it does not even bear thinking about), my main priority would be that they went somewhere that I knew would keep them forever. Somewhere where they would be loved and be happy. Sorry if you thought I was too abrupt :cheers:

 

[saraquele]

Saraquele, I was not having a dig at you when I said it made me angry. To be honest I don't know if there is a rule about this at all. I am not a breeder and I do not know how things work in the pedigree world. All I meant was, that surely the needs and welfare of the dog come first. This is my personal opinion and nothing else. God forbid that I ever had to let my dogs go (it does not even bear thinking about), my main priority would be that they went somewhere that I knew would keep them forever. Somewhere where they would be loved and be happy. Sorry if you thought I was too abrupt  :cheers:

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dont worry kath i know :huggles:

just got me thinking what generally happens thats all :cheers:

 

[saraquele]

Saraquele, I was not having a dig at you when I said it made me angry. To be honest I don't know if there is a rule about this at all. I am not a breeder and I do not know how things work in the pedigree world. All I meant was, that surely the needs and welfare of the dog come first. This is my personal opinion and nothing else. God forbid that I ever had to let my dogs go (it does not even bear thinking about), my main priority would be that they went somewhere that I knew would keep them forever. Somewhere where they would be loved and be happy. Sorry if you thought I was too abrupt  :cheers:

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dont worry kath i know :huggles:

just got me thinking what generally happens thats all :cheers:

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p.s lol .... no i didnt think you were too abrupt :thumbsup:

 

[*Lesley*]

I'm not a breeder and I'm not sure what I would do if I ever had to rehome any of mine (god forbid) :sweating: and money would be the least of my worries at that point and to me mine are priceless anyway :huggles:

But with the lady in Sharons case(although she seems better off without a dog) I don't blame her for wanting to try to get some money back the pup is only very young and she just can't cope with the the puppy stages, as long as she finds him a good home why should she give him away for free, if he went back to the breeder I'm sure they wouldn't just give him away :blink:

 

[beaker]

:angry: if i was that dogs breeder i'd have taken him back without a moments hesitation :angry:

i do not have a problem with the owner asking for a small amount of money for the pup, if she were to advertise him as 'free to good home only' the only word some people would see would be....FREE!

 

[Joanna]

There was a huge row about this a couple of years back :- " I actually disagree with Lesley on this one about the money. I think when you get a pet, if it doesn't work out, the only issue should be relocating to the best possible home. Some-times the best home may not be the one who can stump up £300 to cover your costs. I also think that when you commit to having a pet, the initial payment is but a drop in the ocean compared to your expenses for the next 14 years. I would feel callous asking for money as it would increase my guilt at having failed to give an animal a forever home. I absolutely respect any other opinions people may have, but that is just how I feel about it. There probably isn't a right or wrong, just two different sides of the same coin

 

[kim & Tilly]

but what if you have paid out a large sum of money...

i paid £375 for tilly and £400 for bean...

what if it didnt work out between tilly and bean, why should i lose out £400 through no fault of my own. I would expect the next owner to pay as much as i did, or just a little less.

 

[Kath]

The difference being that it would have been through no fault of your own. This owner had already taken one dog back.

Quote from the first post 'the lady in question had a rescue dog off me last year , a little lurcher type , 6 months later she handed the dog back in as she #

was "allergic" to it '

In my opinion she already knew she had a problem with dogs, so why did she go for another? This I consider to be all her own fault.

 

[quintessence]

I can't comment one way or another about the money all I see is another whippet needing a home, and people posting on K9 asking how to get their dog used at stud and people coming onto K9 just to sell their puppies and the very large number of puppies recently registered with the Kennel Club, I'm really concerned for the breed as a whole.

Jenny

 

[Seraphina]

but what if you have paid out a large sum of money...
i paid £375 for tilly and £400 for bean...

what if it didnt work out between tilly and bean, why should i lose out £400 through no fault of my own. I would expect the next owner to pay as much as i did, or just a little less.

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If you would bring the pup back within week or two you could expect to get your money back. But further down the track I think that the relinquishing owner has to bear some responsibility and recognize that taking back the dog the breeder will have to spend money and time, as breders who just sold a litter few months back may not have people waiting for a pup from them.

 

[dessie]

but what if you have paid out a large sum of money...
i paid £375 for tilly and £400 for bean...

what if it didnt work out between tilly and bean, why should i lose out £400 through no fault of my own. I would expect the next owner to pay as much as i did, or just a little less.

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Very mercenary!!!

Any breeder worth their salt should take a dog back and mine all go with a contract to say they MUST be returned to me. There is no hard and fast rule about refunds and each person must make their own mind up as to that. Also you would have to take into account the age/condition (both mental and physical) of the dog that is being returned, plus the reason.

Unfortunately, the older puppies get and lose their ahhhhhhhhhh value, they also lose their monetary value. So they certainly cannot be re-homed for their full 8 week old market value, not that I would want to sell a dog 'again' for full price anyway but, conversely, neither would I give a dog away. If people cannot afford to pay for a dog, they cannot afford its upkeep IMO.

People who do not breed seem to think that those who do make vast profits from selling puppies ..................... if only!! If I can cover my costs for producing that litter plus keep all my other dogs for a month or so, if everything went swimmily with the litter, I would consider myself very lucky!!

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

personally.....

if i was a breeder...i would refund someones money who brought a pup back to me.....

but if bought a puppy which i then returned to a breeder i would not expect to be refunded.... :blink:

 

[Juley]

but what if you have paid out a large sum of money...
i paid £375 for tilly and £400 for bean...

what if it didnt work out between tilly and bean, why should i lose out £400 through no fault of my own. I would expect the next owner to pay as much as i did, or just a little less.

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Very mercenary!!!

Any breeder worth their salt should take a dog back and mine all go with a contract to say they MUST be returned to me. There is no hard and fast rule about refunds and each person must make their own mind up as to that. Also you would have to take into account the age/condition (both mental and physical) of the dog that is being returned, plus the reason.

Unfortunately, the older puppies get and lose their ahhhhhhhhhh value, they also lose their monetary value. So they certainly cannot be re-homed for their full 8 week old market value, not that I would want to sell a dog 'again' for full price anyway but, conversely, neither would I give a dog away. If people cannot afford to pay for a dog, they cannot afford its upkeep IMO.

People who do not breed seem to think that those who do make vast profits from selling puppies ..................... if only!! If I can cover my costs for producing that litter plus keep all my other dogs for a month or so, if everything went swimmily with the litter, I would consider myself very lucky!!

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I agree with this post completely. Personally, mine ( first litter I have bred) all went on a contract saying they MUST come back to me on a sliding scale of refund, depending on age. I am committed to the litter for their entire lifetime. Obviously, if the dog was going to a much loved other member of the family, that would be fine, providing we had the same written agreement. I agree that to some people the word FREE is an incentive to just have the dog for that reason and usually somebody would expect to pay something for the dog. Obviously, the home is by far the most important consideration, especially if the first home hasn't worked out. Hopefully the pup will get a lovely new home and the current owner will think very carefully before taking on another pup. Just my opinion.

 

[jools]

What a hot topic. I have bred 2 litters and have put in the paperwork - "If at any time, for any reason you are unable to keep (name) they must be returned to me. When they are re-homed, I will pass any monies received (less any Vets bills) to yourself.

I learnt with doing rescue that a contract, whether for a puppy bought from a breeder or a dog from a rescue, is useless. The law is that the buyer has bought "goods" and they can dispose of them as they wish, Sad, but true.

 

[Whippets Rule]

but what if you have paid out a large sum of money...
i paid £375 for tilly and £400 for bean...

what if it didnt work out between tilly and bean, why should i lose out £400 through no fault of my own. I would expect the next owner to pay as much as i did, or just a little less.

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well now....the reason you should get to lose out is because you chose to buy the dog and take responsibility for it,knowing you already have a dog and they may or may not get along.

You can't buy an item whether it be an inanimate object or a living thing and expect a full refund if things don't fit in exactly how you want them. :blink:

 

[Whippets Rule]

There was a huge row about this a couple of years back :- " I actually disagree with Lesley on this one about the money. I think when you get a pet, if it doesn't work out, the only issue should be relocating to the best possible home. Some-times the best home may not be the one who can stump up £300 to cover your costs. I also think that when you commit to having a pet, the initial payment is but a drop in the ocean compared to your expenses for the next 14 years. I would feel callous asking for money as it would increase my guilt at having failed to give an animal a forever home. I absolutely respect any other opinions people may have, but that is just how I feel about it. There probably isn't a right or wrong, just two different sides of the same coin

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I have to say i wholeheartedly agree with what you say here i totally feel that when you commit to having a pet,the money should be the last thing on your mind if it comes to finding a new loving home.It seems very mercenary to expect to get your money back.

 

[saraquele]

thank you all for your input into this topic ,, and were all still civil (w00t)

i think all of you have a valid point .

i again would put in the contract that any pup i sold on was returned to me , regardless of age etc , which everyone has agreed on .

ive seen it from both sides , when a dog is returned to the rescue , the old owners get there money back after the dog has been homed again.

yet i returned [name removed by moderator] to [name removed by moderator] and have never seen a penny of the money i paid for her.

so both sides of the coin :thumbsup:

 

[Strike Whippets]

I have just recently bred my first litter :wub:
I have said to my new owner's, and put it all in writeing that if at ANY time in the dog's life they are no longer able to keep him or her, they are to be returned to me no question's asked, and a FULL refund will be given.

That's just what i personally wanted to do :thumbsup:

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Snap ........I've said the same ......In my opinion i'd rather pay full price for 1 of my puppies/adults to come back to me than see them passed on .......