Zorro And Bramble

[*Lesley*]

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lovely puppies lesley :wub:   :wub:

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Thanks Melanie the credit for them has to go to Lamping man though they are his babies :wub: :wub: they are gorgeous aren't they,their sister Spry is my baby :wub:

 

[melanie]

awwwww shes lovely to :wub: love the markings on her face :wub:

 

[*Lesley*]

Thanks Melanie don't let the angelic expression fool you though (w00t) (w00t) :lol:

 

[~Helen~]

End of the day, people offer advice and comments in the best interests of the dogs. If you think you know better or are not prepared to listen to these opinions so be it.  :- "

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I can't believe a fight blew up out of this. I looked at the thread and though, "Aw cute puppies and don't they look cool in those jackets" :wub: then I read Hanah's opinion and felt that I learned things, and there was stuff that I hadn't considered. At no point did I think:

a) anyone was doing anything wrong or wicked

or

b)that anyone was taking moral high ground :wacko:

I'm really new to whippet owning. I attended my first race as a spectator last October, fell in love with the sport, and Josie had her first ever trial run down the track on Boxing Day. I know absolutely NOTHING about racing. I'm glad that people have these discussions on k9 and offer their opinions (whether asked for them or not) as I'm hardly going to learn if everyone goes around too scared to speak to each other for fear of causing offence.

Please stop arguing and have a sensible discussion, or you're going to find that new comers just throw their hands up and say, "Sod it, I don't want any part of a sport which has so much back-biting." And I'm sure that's not the effect you want!

 

[melanie]

Thanks Melanie don't let the angelic expression fool you though  (w00t)   (w00t)   :lol:

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emm yes, iv seen the pic of her eating your tree :lol: :lol:

 

[IanGerman]

Tree eating???

Well - have I got views for you!

But it will have to wait until I get home as it isn't on my office pc :b

 

[BeeJay]

The problem with this is that the photo was put on I think as something fun and amusing. Trouble is what some of us (including me) saw in that photo was against our racing rules. The rule about not running puppies under 6 months old behind mechanical lures was brought to safeguard the puppies welfare. Though LM's pups aren't of course breaking any rules.

This photo was put on the peddie racing forum and I suspect that many of us peddie racers would not want to appear to condone what is shown in this photo. I myself do wrap my pups up in cotton wool. I am a believer in leaving them at home to grow up and develop fully. I do not want my pups joints stressed and be asked to do too much. Left to their own devices they shouldn't over do things. I do take my pups out specifically to socialize them but I do not exercise them as such. That they do themselves running and playing in the house and garden. This has little to do with rearing racing pups it's something that I learned to do from show people.

Would I personally be running my pups - even singly - down a track for 20 yards after a lure. Obviously I wouldn't. I am right to not do this? Haven't a clue it's just not what I do.

Would I want people who know nothing about whippet racing on seeing this photo to think that is what we all do. No I don't. Only today I've been trying to explain to someone, who on hearing that I raced my whippets was appalled, that my dogs are pets first and racers second. That I like most racers do not pass on a dog that won't race or is very slow. That my dogs do what they love to do but their welfare is uppermost at all times.

Not lecturing (honest :b ) just trying to explain why this photo which was put on here in all innocence as a cute photo of two pups having fun didn't quite get the reception that people thought that it would.

 

[Mark Roberts]

BJ being diplomatic? what ever next lol

 

[BeeJay]

:lol: It's my new approach Mark mellow. It should last ............. about another 30 mins I expect.

I still haven't forgotten that we have to do that little test on flattening your feet. See you Sunday.

 

[Scott Frodsham]

me not putting my foot in my mouth/swearing? :b

 

[Mark Roberts]

Having been on the recieving end of the old BJ! I quite like the new BJ :- "

See you Sunday, don't forget the puppies treats they are looking forward to them :thumbsup:

 

[John E Greenwood]

Thing is......there are rules....which, of course, we must adhere to, if we want to race in W.C.R.A. affiliated clubs.........and then there is common sense.....and then there is preaching to the converted.

I don't wrap my pups up in cotton wool, they run free as soon as they are capable of running free......I haven't noticed any ill effects, yet.......and I don't believe that anyone is a) more knowledgable. b)has higher moral standards or c) loves their dogs any more than I do, if they don't let their pups run loose....or play at chasing a lure for a few yards on a pleasent Sunday afternoon. :wacko:

My whippets are dogs....pet dogs....I happen to race them....mainly because I think that they have fun when they are racing........It's not rocket science....If racing begins to encroach on their lives as happy, healthy, fun loving dogs....then I will give up racing.

To be quite honest, iimo many of the rules are over complicated and unneccassay, serving mainly to pander to the egos of club officials, who seem to need to be able to know more and have a more complete interpretation of them than us mere mortals......

Having said that, as I said at the begining of this post, I accept that if I want to race with the W.R.C.A., then I have to abide by their rules....People who know me will verify that I often have to ask what these rules are :wub: :b ...

 

[*Lesley*]

Tree eating???
Well - have I got views for you!

But it will have to wait until I get home as it isn't on my office pc  :b

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are trees not a good diet for whippets then Ian :- "

 

[*Lesley*]

Please stop arguing and have a sensible discussion, or you're going to find that new comers just throw their hands up and say, "Sod it, I don't want any part of a sport which has so much back-biting." And I'm sure that's not the effect you want!

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I think they'd have a point in thinking that, Helen

 

[CHRIS DOYLE]

Hi to all you sensible folks out there. At the expense of upsetting some of the purists, ZORRO and Bramble would like you to know that there will be more action shots of their exploits probably on Thursday. Those of a nervous disposition please do not watch. They both chased a crisp packet down the beach in the wind today for about 15 yards. They both reached it simultaneously, thank god, I therefore need not worry that the mental state of othe one that CHASED and didn't get there first was not going to be adversely affected. .....SLEEP WELL TO NIGHT, SECURE IN THAT KNOWLEDGE. :sweating:

 

[*Lesley*]

Hi to all you sensible folks out there. At the expense of upsetting some of the purists, ZORRO and Bramble would like you to know that there will be more action shots of their exploits probably on Thursday. Those of a nervous disposition please do not watch. They both chased a crisp packet down the beach in the wind today for about 15 yards. They both reached it simultaneously, thank god, I therefore need not worry that the mental state of othe one that CHASED and didn't get there first was not going to be adversely affected. .....SLEEP WELL TO NIGHT, SECURE IN THAT KNOWLEDGE.  :sweating:

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:- " :- " :lol:

 

[~Helen~]

Hi to all you sensible folks out there. At the expense of upsetting some of the purists, ZORRO and Bramble would like you to know that there will be more action shots of their exploits probably on Thursday. Those of a nervous disposition please do not watch. They both chased a crisp packet down the beach in the wind today for about 15 yards. They both reached it simultaneously, thank god, I therefore need not worry that the mental state of othe one that CHASED and didn't get there first was not going to be adversely affected. .....SLEEP WELL TO NIGHT, SECURE IN THAT KNOWLEDGE.  :sweating:

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Do you get slapped often, lamping man? :- " :lol: :b

 

[LasVegasNo1]

I hope you're not teasing about those photos LM... I'm laughing here just thinking about it! :lol: :lol:

 

[Paul Melia]

Shock horror....here's a picture of a young pup out rabbiting and getting so carried away she needed to be dug out........

 

[CHRIS DOYLE]

Shame on you Paul! I hope that whippet was affiliated and there were no stones or flints in the soil. Be warned!

Watching his back

Lampingman