Advice - Dogs Being Left Outside

[urchin]

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The run was cleaned out by some people (no idea who) twice over the weekend, but they just swept all the poo and wee out on to the lane.  Really nice and smelly for us now  :x   Don't know if they had been in to the house and seen the message from the RSPCA and thought they better do something about it in case they took action  :blink: They're still not back home, so until they are I can't really contact the RSPCA again as they've got to have a chance to respond to the message left for them.

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Uggg thats gross! Wonder if environmental health would be interested in this? Where I live there's big fines for fouling the street .... normally of course its very hard to tell after the event whose dog is responsible - but in these circumstances it shouldn't be too difficult to tie the offending matter to the culprit..

Actually, having typed that it seems to be an entirely appropriate solution tie the offending matter to the culprit

human, not canine of course

 

[JAX]

Im quite sure that by doing what they have is quite illegal in its self , all feaces MUST be dispoosed of , not swept out into the street (w00t) :rant: That really is a health hazard :x

If its still there I would take photos to show the council , of course you could always bag it up, post it and leave it with the rightful owners :- "

 

[Janimal]

God Ive just seen this Rachael, Youve really done well taking the initial response and reporting these stupid people. :rant:

Sweeping the dogs dirt into the street is not acceptable either...why on earth couldnt they put it into black bin bags and despose of it....but then they dont sound like they have brains at all. :angry:

Good on you for doing what you have so far....lets hope the dogs get taken somewhere safe eventually, its a shocking situation all round.

 

[~Sarah~]

What a terrible situation for the poor dogs :x and good for your Rachel for doing something about it. :thumbsup:

I would have thought whoever brushed the poo out onto the lane could be fined for not clearing up, but I suppose difficult to prove. :rant:

Why does it always take so long before anything is done when an awful situation regarding animals has been highlighted to the relevant authorities? It makes me feel so angry that they are left suffering. :rant:

 

[jok]

As the dogs are still left alone i don't know why the RSPCA can't act further - try calling them back. AFter all, how long to the dogs have to be kept like that, the owners might have gone on a 6 weeks cruise (w00t)

Can't they come and remove the dogs???

 

[rls22]

Still not back - I don't think they will remove them because they are getting food and water.

Obviously it is horrendous how they are being kepy and we all know how awful it is because of the luxury our dogs are kept in, but the RSPCA don't see it like that

 

[kris]

try ringing enviromental health and make a complaint about the smell and the dirt. :thumbsup:

 

[Janimal]

As the dogs are still left alone i don't know why the RSPCA can't act further - try calling them back.  AFter all, how long to the dogs have to be kept like that, the owners might have gone on a 6 weeks cruise (w00t)
Can't they come and remove the dogs???

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I thought I once saw a TV programme and they are not allowed to break in and enter...or something like that. :angry: Havnt a clue why though.. :angry:

I had a similar situation last year where a lady went away and dumped her cats on me...as I had been pet sitting them....unfortunately she had cleared off with the contents of the house and left the cats locked outside with no food or anything. but up to that moment they had been looked after.

I rang RSPCA and because I was feeding them they said they couldnt do anything but would let me have a ferrel trap to catch the cats. That was a year ago and Im still waiting.. :rant: :rant: never a phone call since.

Any way this one did have a happy ending...I eventually caught both of the cats and rehomed them myself. :thumbsup: but needless to say I am a more than gobsmacked with the RSPCA. :rant:

 

[whippetgood]

Ring enviromental health as they act quickly and sweeping poos into the street is not on!! Rachel, you are doing so well with this it must be very stressful for you to hear and see those poor babies in that state where the bloody hell are these people?????

i feel like coming along and just taking them!!!

 

[Janimal]

Ring enviromental health as they act quickly and sweeping poos into the street is not on!!  Rachel, you are doing so well with this it must be very stressful for you to hear and see those poor babies in that state where the bloody hell are these people?????i feel like coming along and just taking them!!!

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Quite agree whippetgood.....after all they wouldnt even notice they had gone...

 

[urchin]

When I worked in a small group home, many many years ago, I had a colleague who was a volunteer for the cats protection league. She used to kidnap neighbours' cats, take them off to be neutered then bring them back again!

I'm sure the local pillocks must've noticed when their felines came in at night with big shaven patches, or missing 2 very prominent items (w00t) but no one ever came knocking on the door!

Not that I'm advocating the illegal removal of other people's animals of course :- "

 

[rls22]

What really makes me sad, is that I imagine these poor dogs would be really difficult to rehome now as they've had such a horrible life so far. No human contact, kept outside with no exercise, no training etc. I would think that they wouldn't know how to cope in a 'normal' home.

Good idea about phoning environmental health. I shall have another look tomorrow morning and see how it's all looking :thumbsup:

 

[nina]

What really makes me sad, is that I imagine these poor dogs would be really difficult to rehome now as they've had such a horrible life so far.  No human contact, kept outside with no exercise, no training etc.  I would think that they wouldn't know how to cope in a 'normal' home. 

Good idea about phoning environmental health.  I shall have another look tomorrow morning and see how it's all looking  :thumbsup:

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Its getting cold now & i'm assuming these poor mites have no heating

Does anyone know of somewhere/someone who would be able to take them if the situation arose? :- "

Just a hypothetical question of course :thumbsup:

 

[maggiemay2]

Could try getting Tia Greyhound and Lurcher Rescue in Halifax, West Yorkshirbe to take them if the were to escape/be rescued?? :- "

Their website is www.tiagreyhounds.org.uk

not sure where these dogs are though?

 

[nina]

Could try getting Tia Greyhound and Lurcher Rescue in Halifax, West Yorkshirbe to take them if the were to escape/be rescued??  :- "

Their website is www.tiagreyhounds.org.uk

not sure where these dogs are though?

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Thanks

 

[Louise_Simon]

I took someones rabbit home once :- " after the RSPCA did nothing to help him

 

[wild whippies]

The thing is here if those dogs were to ''escape'' or be rescued, your giving the owners free reign to acquire another dog/ dogs in the future and do the same all over again. It's not yet been established who is caring for these dogs at present, in fairness we can all put our trust into individuals to look after our dogs while we go away but there's no guarantee they'll do decent job.

THE RSPCA should have issued either an Assessment form or a warning notice, it'd be helpful to know which as it'll give a better idea of how seriously the RSPCA are taking the matter.

I know people may be mortified by the conditions they're being kept in but they are in receipt of food, water and shelter. It's up to the RSPCA to decide if they're shelter is suitable but I suspect that if the conditions are that dire, they'll be breaching the law regarding protection from illness and may also be in breach of laws regarding whether these 2 dogs are suitable to be kenneled together due to dog fighting and the potential risk this puts these dogs to injury and freedom to express normal behaviour.

Personally I think it would be better to take these comments to the RSPCA inspector concerned to establish what exactly is being done and contact enviromental health who could play merry hell with regards to the disposal of dog waste and the potential hazard the current situation holds. I'm sure a witness statement by RLS about the disposal of dog waste on a public highway would at the very least clock up a £1,000 fine. Another thing is it's probably worth mentioning to the inspector doubts you may have about the dogs health as I would expect only a vet could decide.

I hope people don't feel I'm putting a dampner on the situation but like I said previously without a prosecution, there's nothing stopping these individuals from doing this again. It may well be a situation of re-educating these individuals on basic animal care (overseen by the RSPCA) and possibly when they see the effort & finances involved, they may choose to sign these dogs over.

 

[melanie]

well done for doing what you did :thumbsup: i hope something gets sorted for them soon

 

[kris]

i think it would be much better to do as jac says and try to exert pressure on the owners to give up the dogs into a rescues care rather than do anything a bit more 'dangerous' shall we say. :- " the dogs are being fed,watered and have shelter.yes i know its not an ideal situation but for the time being their lives arent in danger as if they were the rspca would have got them out im sure.theyre aware of the situation and i think a call to the enviromental health might help matters also.

 

[FeeFee]

I agree with Kris on this one, I'm afraid. No rescue would be able to help if these dogs are 'removed' without their owners' consent.

I understand how upsetting it is to see them in this situation, but the RSPCA have seen them and presumably didn't consider them to be in danger - ill or starved. The sad fact is that the standards of care required by the law are very low - food, water, shelter, and there are lots of dogs in these sort of conditions. :angry:

Is there any chance of talking to the kid who's looking after them? Maybe he's supposed to be feeding and cleaning them out every day but isn't doing it? Perhaps if you can be friendly and say you saw the RSPCA had been round and ask if there is a problem or if he needs any help you might find out a bit more?