count me in :thumbsup: big small fast slow not bothered :cheers:
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masta said:count me in :thumbsup: big small fast slow not bothered :cheers:
LOL your in mate but which catagory does your bitch come undercount me in big small fast slow not bothered
he wants one really but you know what these men are like :- "Paula Roberts said:Do you think hes coming round to the idea Tanya? (w00t)
Right then. let me rephrase that seeing as no one's answered me (w00t)TC said:Thanks Mark. I suppose I just find it interesting, expecially as people from certain circles are always talking about how they can't abide the size that some whippets are these days, and then openly invite oversized dogs to run....Mark Roberts said:Hi TC,Just interested. Apart from the safety aspect, surely it can be a complete advantage/disadvatage to be one of a pair consisting of a 17.5" 18lb bitch up against a 23" 38lb dog?
it works very well, at the last meeting we had a small bitch 17" running against a large dog 23" the small bitch lead from slips and despite the big dog trying his heart out he couldn't get back on terms with her and she won the course.
unfortunatly some seem to have this misguided notion that big/small cant run together?, but we had several courses at the last meeting that involved large and small running together (as we have over the 7 years we've organised lure coursing meetings) and i'm sure all the owners concerned will vouch that not 1 dog was injured due to size differance between the runners and the smaller whippet often won.
I'm glad there haven't been any injuries :thumbsup:
TCx
TC all events run by The Northwest LCC are run as FUN events for all who care to enter hence no height restrictions these events are run to bring together show/racing/working/Lure coursing & pet whippets together if their owners choose to take the chance to participate winning is a bonus.TC said:Right then. let me rephrase that seeing as no one's answered me (w00t)TC said:Thanks Mark. I suppose I just find it interesting, expecially as people from certain circles are always talking about how they can't abide the size that some whippets are these days, and then openly invite oversized dogs to run....Mark Roberts said:Hi TC,Just interested. Apart from the safety aspect, surely it can be a complete advantage/disadvatage to be one of a pair consisting of a 17.5" 18lb bitch up against a 23" 38lb dog?
it works very well, at the last meeting we had a small bitch 17" running against a large dog 23" the small bitch lead from slips and despite the big dog trying his heart out he couldn't get back on terms with her and she won the course.
unfortunatly some seem to have this misguided notion that big/small cant run together?, but we had several courses at the last meeting that involved large and small running together (as we have over the 7 years we've organised lure coursing meetings) and i'm sure all the owners concerned will vouch that not 1 dog was injured due to size differance between the runners and the smaller whippet often won.
I'm glad there haven't been any injuries :thumbsup:
TCx
I know it's all about the fun, but then it gets serious. At the end of the day there are lots of people there that want to win. After all, that is why all this talk came about of challenging the semi final winners from the Bob Blatch Trophy to a competition. That wasn't about having a laugh and a joke. That was a serious challenge.
I have a young dog, 19 3/4 inches. If I'm interested in running him in this competition and he is drawn against a smaller dog then he has to take his chances. The same as if he's drawn against a 20 and 3/4" dog. If I'm being really honest (and only talking for myself here so make of it what you will) and he gets drawn against a 23" dog, the bigger dog is going to have the advantage. Okay there are some that say that Ruso might be able to turn slightly quicker than the larger dog (but IMO that is more about length than height in this instance) but undoubtedly, those 3 and a 1/4 inches are going to make a hell of difference to the length of stride betwen the two. The weight difference won't be there that it would be in a tiny bitch and a large dog, so I really don't see any advantage for my dog.
If it was all about fun on a Sunday afternoon that's something completely different, but I truly don't believe this is. I am sure you had great fun. Who wouldn't, all those whippety people in one place, fab! I'd have really enjoyed myself, no doubt. But I'd have come hoping to see my dogs run to the best of their ability, and to have a fair crack at winning as many rounds as possible. After all, Winx hates to lose as much as I do :- "
When I made my original point I was also intimating that a really small dog running with a large one may have the advantage that is why I said advantage/disadvantage :thumbsup: I am sure that the 17" bitch outran the larger dog, as at 23" it's surely right on the verge of losing type and ability etc (definitely no offence intended, just stating facts as I have understood them) as power will never outweigh speed and agility in a lure coursing situation IMO.
Now you know how competitive I am, but hey, it's all in the breeding. I totally blame my mother (w00t) 8) :- "
I still maintain that a 20" dog against a 23" dog is going to be at a disadvantage. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.....
Really interested to hear your views obut I am running for my tin hat nevertheless :lol:
Cheers
TCx
I'm sure you did Tanya, and I bet you have great fun again :cheers:posh totty said:personally i made an almost 600 mile round trip to just have fun at watching my girl run , she is 13 mths old and before i even entered i knew she wouldnt have a chance, but meeting friends with like minded views and interests , the long trip was certainly more than worth it and i did enter for FUN alone :thumbsup:
anyone with working whippets takes a risk every time they run their dogs , each and every time they let them chase?be it day time work , daytime fun or on the lamp thats a sad risk we take but with our chosen breed an acceptable risk? :thumbsup:
i am happily making the same trip again just to have a laugh and watch my girl, who incidently is the best ever pink wearing lure coursing whippet ever (w00t)
Good luck to all entrants , see you there!!!
what have the champs got to do with lure coursing? they run a highly competitive race meeting not a fun relaxed lure coursing meeting.The Champs etc wouldn't have weight groups if it wasn't about being fair, would they........
Pennymeadow Whippets said:TC all events run by The Northwest LCC are run as FUN events for all who care to enter hence no height restrictions these events are run to bring together show/racing/working/Lure coursing & pet whippets together if their owners choose to take the chance to participate winning is a bonus.TC said:Right then. let me rephrase that seeing as no one's answered me (w00t)TC said:Thanks Mark. I suppose I just find it interesting, expecially as people from certain circles are always talking about how they can't abide the size that some whippets are these days, and then openly invite oversized dogs to run....Mark Roberts said:Hi TC,Just interested. Apart from the safety aspect, surely it can be a complete advantage/disadvatage to be one of a pair consisting of a 17.5" 18lb bitch up against a 23" 38lb dog?
it works very well, at the last meeting we had a small bitch 17" running against a large dog 23" the small bitch lead from slips and despite the big dog trying his heart out he couldn't get back on terms with her and she won the course.
unfortunatly some seem to have this misguided notion that big/small cant run together?, but we had several courses at the last meeting that involved large and small running together (as we have over the 7 years we've organised lure coursing meetings) and i'm sure all the owners concerned will vouch that not 1 dog was injured due to size differance between the runners and the smaller whippet often won.
I'm glad there haven't been any injuries :thumbsup:
TCx
I know it's all about the fun, but then it gets serious. At the end of the day there are lots of people there that want to win. After all, that is why all this talk came about of challenging the semi final winners from the Bob Blatch Trophy to a competition. That wasn't about having a laugh and a joke. That was a serious challenge.
I have a young dog, 19 3/4 inches. If I'm interested in running him in this competition and he is drawn against a smaller dog then he has to take his chances. The same as if he's drawn against a 20 and 3/4" dog. If I'm being really honest (and only talking for myself here so make of it what you will) and he gets drawn against a 23" dog, the bigger dog is going to have the advantage. Okay there are some that say that Ruso might be able to turn slightly quicker than the larger dog (but IMO that is more about length than height in this instance) but undoubtedly, those 3 and a 1/4 inches are going to make a hell of difference to the length of stride betwen the two. The weight difference won't be there that it would be in a tiny bitch and a large dog, so I really don't see any advantage for my dog.
If it was all about fun on a Sunday afternoon that's something completely different, but I truly don't believe this is. I am sure you had great fun. Who wouldn't, all those whippety people in one place, fab! I'd have really enjoyed myself, no doubt. But I'd have come hoping to see my dogs run to the best of their ability, and to have a fair crack at winning as many rounds as possible. After all, Winx hates to lose as much as I do :- "
When I made my original point I was also intimating that a really small dog running with a large one may have the advantage that is why I said advantage/disadvantage :thumbsup: I am sure that the 17" bitch outran the larger dog, as at 23" it's surely right on the verge of losing type and ability etc (definitely no offence intended, just stating facts as I have understood them) as power will never outweigh speed and agility in a lure coursing situation IMO.
Now you know how competitive I am, but hey, it's all in the breeding. I totally blame my mother (w00t) 8) :- "
I still maintain that a 20" dog against a 23" dog is going to be at a disadvantage. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.....
Really interested to hear your views obut I am running for my tin hat nevertheless :lol:
Cheers
TCx
The challenge well i guess the people who took part in The Pennymeadow Cup took offence at having their winning whippets put down as second rate by someone bigging up their own event stating that the best coursing whippet in the country will come from their event & also making strange challenges to run the winner of The Pennymeadow Cup in a best of three competition for £2000 (w00t) now where is the fun in that :- " needless to say instead of all singing from the same song sheet & promoting Lure Coursing for what it realy is FUN FUN FUN some choose to do otherwise.
Regarding safety in all the years we have been running these events not once has a larger dog injured a smaller dog & we have never had a serious injury in the field unlike elsewhere there was also a Vet who is also running dog specialist in attendance at the meeting as a safety precaution.
In respect of size being an advantage if that were the case why does the biggest dog/bitch not win at all lure coursing events throughout the country & also in live coursing Pre ban.
No need for a tin hat if you ask the question be prepared for some different answers as this is only my opinion & hope it helps answer some of your questions :thumbsup:
Hey, im up fer coming again, hrs run tops from where i am, as long as she gets a run im happy with that, but after seeing some of the doggies at the pennymeadow do, jill's no threat, im new to this buisness, lure coursing, but any activity with my dogs gotta be good ehMark Roberts said:Well folks after the astounding success of the recent Pennymeadow Cup hosted by the Northwest lure coursing cup lure coursing meeting I am pleased to announce the the Northwest Lure Coursing Club will be hosting the PARKSTONE VASES for 32 Kennel Club registered whippets.
All Kennel Club Registered whippets welcome no height limits.
Entry form below.
The
Northwest Lure Coursing Club
Proudly Presents
The
PARKSTONE VASES
Kindly Sponsored by Mark & Paula Roberts.
A 32 Whippet Lure Coursing meeting to be held on the 23rd February 2008 at Hollingworth Lake, LittleBorough Lancs, Open to All Kennel Club registered whippets. (No Height/Weight limits)
The course will be run over approximately 700yds with 7 turns run on a take up system (not a continuous loop)
All dogs will run in pairs from slips,
Every dog will have a minimum of 2 runs.
Entry fee £5.00 per dog (no membership Fees)
First pair in slips 9.30am.
On Site Facilities ~ Toilets/Bar, Closing date for Entrys 10th February 2008 (post mark)
Owners Name ~…………………………………………………
Address ~ …………………………………………………………………………………………………………
……………………………………………………………….post code~…………………………….
Tel Number~……………………………………………
KC Name ~ …………………………………………………………… Dog/Bitch………………….
KC Registration Number………………………………………………….
KC Name ~ …………………………………………………………… Dog/Bitch………………….
KC Registration Number………………………………………………….
Owners Signature ~………………………………………………….Date~……………………..
(By signing this form above I accept that the Northwest Lure Coursing Club and its officials on the day cannot be held responsible for any injuries sustained at the above meeting.)
ALL DOG MESS MUST BE CLEARED UP BY OWNERS
Pre paid entrys to ~ Mark Roberts, 76 Carnforth Ave, Castleton, Rochdale, Lancs, OL11 2YD (cheques made payerble to
“The Lancashire P.W.R.C”
LOL Mark, you know exactly what I meant :thumbsup:Mark Roberts said:what have the champs got to do with lure coursing? they run a highly competitive race meeting not a fun relaxed lure coursing meeting.The Champs etc wouldn't have weight groups if it wasn't about being fair, would they........
If I'd known that this tournament was seriously all about the FUN FUN FUN then I wouldn't have started this line of question
TC,p.s Don't count your chickens yet, The Boys of Alacrity might fancy the trip up, that's if we're not barred
We'll see, appreciate the offer :thumbsup:Mark Roberts said:If I'd known that this tournament was seriously all about the FUN FUN FUN then I wouldn't have started this line of questionTC,p.s Don't count your chickens yet, The Boys of Alacrity might fancy the trip up, that's if we're not barred
your more than welcome to enter your dogs and come for a run that way (and this is a genuine offer) you can then go home and write a true appraisal on k9 of your day lure coursing with us (good/bad) :thumbsup:
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