Very Strange Advert On Epupz!

[~whitecross whippets~]

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keep my fingers cross for them,this is not the same one that advertising the puppies as well is it?

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do you mean is the advert for the 2 adults on the same site as my original post for the puppies?..if you do the answer is yes :thumbsup:

 

[Lynn-Alexandria]

Having only been introduced to Epupz a few weeks ago I have to say that there are some aspects of it that concern me. However I agree with what Dolly is saying. I was glancing through the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel section becuase they are a breed close to my heart. I was sickened to see an ad for a 6 year old bitch who was used as a breeding bitch and is now ready to retire. I think it is sick that people just disregard their bitches when they are finished with them.

"A Dog is for Life"

That is a saying that I firmly believe. It is unfair that these poor dogs who are with their family for so long are suddenly uprooted and sold becuase they have served their purpose. It makes me so angry to see adds like this. :rant: :rant:

 

[dolly]

I totally agree, my friend has just rehomed a bitch(notwhippet) from the 'many tears rescue ' in Wales, and the ex puppy farm breeding bitches on their web is so upsetting.

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

sometimes with certain situations its difficult to understand how people think...we had a family once who brought an elderly dog...border collie...(about 10yrs i think so not really old) that they had had from a puppy..to be put to sleep because they had got a new puppy and the 2 dogs didnt get didnt get on! :rant:

 

[jnjsse]

thats sick, dont know where some people their way of thinking from, seems ruthless to me

 

[»Tina«]

I've seen a couple of breeders off K9 advertise thier pups on epupz, so do you all think this is wrong? if yes can I ask why?

surely it's not how they are advertised but how well the buyers will be vetted?

or is it a case of, if you have to advertise in this way you shouldn't breed as you should have thought about homes before you bred a litter?

not on either side really just wondering :thumbsup:

 

[jnjsse]

thats sick, dont know where some people their way of thinking from, seems ruthless to menot about epupz, was about the family putting the collie to sleep

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

I've seen a couple of breeders off K9 advertise thier pups on epupz, so do you all think this is wrong? if yes can I ask why?
surely it's not how they are advertised but how well the buyers will be vetted?

or is it a case of, if you have to advertise in this way you shouldn't breed as you should have thought about homes before you bred a litter?

not on either side really just wondering  :thumbsup:

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imo i dont think its wrong at all...i think that epupz has some great breeders on it ......and some are not so good but i think responsible people can tell the difference..... and the good breeders know which homes are good and which ones are not (does that make sense?) :thumbsup:

 

[»Tina«]

yes it makes sense :thumbsup:

 

[Judy]

We have also been concerned for some time about advertising dogs on this site. I don't like the idea of Epupz but like someone here has already said, is there really any difference between advertising on the internet and advertising in the paper. Mind you, I don't really like seeing dogs advertised in the paper either but yes, I agree with Tina that what really matters is whether the breeder vets the home properly, not how they came by the enquiry.

I do realise that if you are part of the Whippet community it is much easier to do things "properly". Apart from our first two whippets, all our puppies have been booked up long before the mating has even occurred, (sometimes years), but not everybody is in the know about what litters are planned or wants a dog from a particular line like we do - and some people just want a pet.

This web site has helped a lot of people to become part of the "whippet community" and I do know lots of very responsible people have acquired puppies from some very responsible breeders through this site. I like to think that providing that initial contact is one of the good jobs this site does, along with providing some good advice to new owners and allowing people to keep in contact after the puppy has gone to its new home.

However, maybe its time we looked at advertising on K9 and we would like your help in changing the rules if necessary.

At the moment, the board rules state Advertising goods and services is permissible subject to the agreement of the community Administrators. Commercial advertising is not free.

The problem is how do we define "advertising" or "commercial" when it comes to dogs/puppies without stopping the people who are just informing others of their litters. That could be considered an information service. And very often, depending on where they post, they are just informing people that they know anyway. People can always contact them privately if they are interested in having a puppy. I myself have put on a couple of posts that could be considered adverts for people I know who are breeding a litter but are'nt on the internet themselves. On the other hand we obviously don't want K9 being used as a free Epupz.

Any suggestions you can make on rule changes would be welcome.

 

[Nicola]

I think if you start to go the commercial route, it will spoil the pleasure so many of us derive from seeing pictures of breeder's litters. If we make this all formal, then the puppy pictures will be a thing of the past. Those that don't want to actually advertise because they have homes for the pups anyway, won't want to post the pictures for fear of being accused of advertising free of charge.

Please don't go down this route. Yes, there are a few breeders that only appear on K9 when they have a litter, and are taking advantage of this free facility, there's no denying that, but why spoil a lovely website because of the few that do this? I understand we don't want K9 to get a bad reputation, and I'm probably being a bit naive :b but it seems a shame to me.

 

[JAX]

What about, that unless they have done a certain amount of Posts (poss 50) , given advice , put on pics , got into a dabate or at least contributed to K9 in some way other than just letting peps know they have puppies for sale. :- "

A while ago I did make a comment to someone on here, that that was all they seemed to be using K9 for :rant: , they still dont do alot of posts , but I think they took on board what I was getting at :huggles: We do like to know about puppies and when your dogs have been used at stud , but other topics can be added too as well as

K9 is not to be used for free advertising , that takes away the whole idea of K9 IMO.

 

[Karen]

I also think if you allow puppy advertising you will just get more and more people breeding for money and seeing K9 as a shop window.

Im not sure how you could work it but as Jax says, people should'nt just come on here and be able to just post adverts. It is after all a community so these people need to know that they need to take part in the forums.

Perhaps when people first register there could be a little tick box to say they understand they will not be able to post adverts for puppies on this site.

That way we can pretty much carry on as we are, ie enjoying seeing the little ones and PMing any breeder if we are interested.

 

[tony b]

ok so if its wrong to advertise on the internet,k9and the newspaper and your not lucky enough to no a breeder you have not much chance of getting a whippet .making sure the pup gets a good home is the important thing and if it sold through the k9 community it can only be a good thing as k9 people can get to no the breeder and new pup owner.

 

[Juley]

I agree that it would be a shame not to be able to post pix on here of pups, personally I love to see how others puppies are coming on. Perhaps a better way is to allow posts announcing a litter and to allow pix of the litter, though not stating they are for sale. That way anyone interested in a pup could PM the person concerned. IMHO, the most important thing is that the breeder of the pups thoroughly vets the home before letting a pup go. Some people advertise, others don't want or need to, the bottom line, surely is that the home be absolutely the right one. JMHO

 

[dawn]

I usually tell people who enquire after pups to visit and post that they are looking for a puppy on the board, that way the breeders who have litters can contact them via PM without advertising.

IMO a good breeder shouldn't need to advertise puppies.

 

[»Tina«]

IMO a good breeder shouldn't need to advertise puppies.

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but what if you breed for purley selfish reasons (wanting a pup or two, just like mum or dad), and are totally new to breeding having never done this sort of thing before, how would you find great homes for the rest of the pup's by not advertising??

genuine question, not being funny.

 

[tony b]

IMO a good breeder shouldn't need to advertise puppies.

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thats ok but if the breeder that i bought bailey from did not advertise i would not have him or any chance of getting one.i dont think you have to be in whippet circles to be a good owner if so it comes a case of not what you know but who you know

 

[ja jumper]

IMO a good breeder shouldn't need to advertise puppies.

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but what if you breed for purley selfish reasons (wanting a pup or two, just like mum or dad), and are totally new to breeding having never done this sort of thing before, how would you find great homes for the rest of the pup's by not advertising??

genuine question, not being funny.

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i cant understand why people are saying about advertising on the net it is just an online paper and as for e pupz why are people to quick to judge , WHEN LOTS OF BREEDERS ON HERE DO ADVERTISE ON THE NET ,they all have websites and advertise on other sites such as champdogs etc so whats the difference between epupz and champdogs i can also see so so many threads for puppys for sale on here so there is no difference as far as i can see

 

[JAX]

Im not completey anti EPUPZ , just people who put adverts on like the one mentioned , someone who so obviously hasnt got any scrubbles about where her puppies are going , :rant:

As has been said before , its down to the breeders to find the best homes possible for their pups .and weed out the `wheat from the chaff`