British And American Whippets

[patsy]

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Same old, same old ....... There are racers out there that would be good enough to be shown if they'd ever gone to ring craft ......Though they would look silly being the correct size against most of the show dogs (so already they'd be on to a loser)  .......You say .....

I have seen more racing whippets that just could not be shown.

We can't gage as puppies if they are "pet" quality, so don't ship them off away from the showers and don't pass them on if they don't have 2 testicle's, don't show properly or just don't make the grade in the ring ......So there's no difference really, as there are plenty of show dogs out there that aren't good enough to be shown .......

And just for the record common to belief us awful racers don't always breed speed to speed ......It would be stupid to do so ......I must say though that we must be doing something right as the racing bred Whippets are a lot healthier, but then they'd have to be to race at such high speeds up to 5 times in one day !!! ...... Sorry rant over ....I just get fed up with the racers getting slated all of the time ......

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Nobody has said at any time that racing whippets can not be shown, what I said that to do both they have to be show quality, it does not matter that a dog for racing has its ears errect, it does when you show them, as somebody said they have to be trained from a young age. And yes we all have pet puppies that have to go into nice pet homes, and a disagree with racing whippets being a lot healthier mine are well exercised and in hard condition and are no way couch potatoes..

 

[JAX]

Now I am on my high horse I don't like to see baby puppies taken away  from their mums to be photographed, their time with their babes is so short, some people tend to forget the puppies belong to the proud mum not them. I don't mind seeing pictures of them lay with mum,but it tells you nothing seeing the poor little things posing for the camera.

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I'd just like to respond to this as I am one who has recently put individual pics of 1 week old pups on k9. I know it's an aside from the crux of the topic but the above really does make us sound like horrible people.

I would just like to say that mine were not "taken away" from mum to "pose" for the camera.

I waited until she had decided to take herself away from them for a break and they had full bellies and were sleepy. I popped each one of them on the pretty purple rug immediately outside the whelping box, went 'click' and then put them back in with their siblings. They were away from each other for about 60 seconds. Nobody squeaked or cried. Mum continued to lay on her pillow outside the lping box for another 20 minutes. It was less stressful than clipping their nails (so they don't tear up her belly with those sharp little talons) or giving them a dose of worming syrup!!!! both of which must be done with regularity in the coming weeks.

And if we're talking about stacked photos of pups from 4 - 10 weeks old I'm sure we all know that mum takes herself away from the pups far more often at this age than we "take them away" from her for photos.

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Completely agree with you Lana , anyone ever had a bitch that didnt leave them for a few mins during the day ,

Chill out Patsy . We just love to show our puppies off , and keep records of how fast they grow , they arnt wee pups for long ,wheres the harm in that .

If a bitch is brought up with love and is totally relaxed about it , I for one will continue to do it o I know some peps dont like to see pregnagnt bitches on here either , :wacko: :lol:

 

[Strike Whippets]

and a disagree with racing whippets being a lot healthier mine are well exercised and in hard condition and are no way couch potatoes..

I didn't mean show dogs aren't exercised ....I mean the illnesses in lines that are still bred on from :thumbsup: ......

 

[dragonfly]

I didn't mean show dogs aren't exercised ....I mean the illnesses in lines that are still bred on from  :thumbsup:   ......

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That is really interesting. We should all have the health of the breed at heart. Please could you expand on your point.

 

Which illnesses do you have in mind?

 

Do you think some breeders are deliberately using dogs or bitches that they KNOW to carry disease?

 

Please don't name anyone just respond generally.

 

 

Cathie

 

[maggie217]

I didn't mean show dogs aren't exercised ....I mean the illnesses in lines that are still bred on from  :thumbsup:   ......

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That is really interesting. We should all have the health of the breed at heart. Please could you expand on your point.

 

Which illnesses do you have in mind?

 

Do you think some breeders are deliberately using dogs or bitches that they KNOW to carry disease?

 

Please don't name anyone just respond generally.

 

 

Cathie

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I would be really interested to hear your views too. As Cathie says you don't need to name anyone, but I understood that Whippets were a pretty healthy breed.

 

Pauline

 

[UKUSA]

Firstly, who has been slating racing dogs? Not any of the show people that have been posting here in fact it would appear that our racing friends have been having a pop at the show dogs. As for health problems well go on then tell us. I think that the general feeling amongst the show crowd is one of admiration for our American friends that they are able to enjoy the true versatility of our breed without having to worry about height or weight.No one discipline is holier than the other and fingers can be pointed in both directions.

Nicky

 

[seaspot_run]

Help me out here....I thought slated meant being put on a list, or was something you did to your roof to keep the rain out.

 

[rls22]

:lol: it's also like slagging someone/whippet off.

What a valuable and constructive comment I have made to this discussion :b

 

[dragonfly]

slated means to comment upon in an offensive manner.

It's a bit like slagging off!

Cathie

 

[seaspot_run]

slated means to comment upon in an offensive manner.
It's a bit like slagging off!

Cathie

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Ok! Well, carry on.

 

[TC]

:lol: it's also like slagging someone/whippet off.What a valuable and constructive comment I have made to this discussion  :b

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Sorry Rachel, I can't not laugh (w00t)

TCx

 

[BeeJay]

Nobody has said at any time that racing whippets can not be shown, what I said that to do both they have to be show quality, it does not matter that a dog for racing has its ears errect, it does when you show them, as somebody said they have to be trained from a young age. And yes we all have pet puppies that have to go into nice pet homes, and a disagree with racing whippets being a lot healthier mine are well  exercised and in hard condition and are no way couch potatoes..

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'I have seen more racing whippets that just could not be shown. '

Actually the above is a quote from one of your posts Patsy. You did say that they can't be shown even though I'm sure that you meant that they won't be successful due to their appearance.

Basically ALL racing bred whippets can be shown and ALL show bred whippets can be raced. It depends on what their owners want to do with them. Their level of success of course is a quite different matter. I suspect that on average a racing bred in the show ring will do as well as on average the show breds will on the track. ie some will be moderately successful but neither would gain top honours. Most however would be finishing in last place.

 

[~JO~]

:lol: it's also like slagging someone/whippet off.What a valuable and constructive comment I have made to this discussion  :b

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Sorry Rachel, I can't not laugh (w00t)

TCx

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Me either!! :lol: :lol:

 

[seaspot_run]

Basically ALL racing bred whippets can be shown and ALL show bred whippets can be raced.  I

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Untrue in the UK. I have just reread your rules for WCRA and it states that Whippets over 32 pounds may not race.

I think there are probably any number of showbred Whippets whose healthy weight is in excess of 32 pounds--particularly the males.

My 21" US/Aust/UK line showbred dog's healthy weight in good muscle tone is 34.5 pounds, and that is with every rib showing. His 20 1/2" brother who also has good bone and substance for the show ring and races very well over here cannot be gotten under 33#.

Neither would look huge in the UK ring.

 

[rls22]

Basically ALL racing bred whippets can be shown and ALL show bred whippets can be raced.  I

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Untrue in the UK. I have just reread your rules for WCRA and it states that Whippets over 32 pounds may not race.

I think there are probably any number of showbred Whippets whose healthy weight is in excess of 32 pounds--particularly the males.

My 21" US/Aust/UK line showbred dog's healthy weight in good muscle tone is 34.5 pounds, and that is with every rib showing. His 20 1/2" brother who also has good bone and substance for the show ring and races very well over here cannot be gotten under 33#.

Neither would look huge in the UK ring.

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Quite agree with you there Karen.

My 21" US/UK showbred weighs in at 34lbs and he is by no means a big heavy dog. I personally wouldn't like to see him carrying any less weight, so he for one wouldn't be able to race here.

 

[patsy]

Basically ALL racing bred whippets can be shown and ALL show bred whippets can be raced.  I

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Untrue in the UK. I have just reread your rules for WCRA and it states that Whippets over 32 pounds may not race.

I think there are probably any number of showbred Whippets whose healthy weight is in excess of 32 pounds--particularly the males.

My 21" US/Aust/UK line showbred dog's healthy weight in good muscle tone is 34.5 pounds, and that is with every rib showing. His 20 1/2" brother who also has good bone and substance for the show ring and races very well over here cannot be gotten under 33#.

Neither would look huge in the UK ring.

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Thank you Karen for that all my males would be too heavy to race as well.

 

[UKUSA]

O.K then, so after all this ,what do you all think? ...............Shall we have a Champions class or not??????? The Yeas to the right, the nays to the left.........and whose going to tell Uncle Ronnie?

Nicky

 

[rls22]

It's a No from me! :thumbsup:

 

[UKUSA]

Thats one to the left,

Thank-you

 

[patsy]

No from me as well, if we get too many yeses, I am not volunteering to tell Ronnie.