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[GRAHAM PEM]

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Please don't make me go in them little traps, you know I'm claustrophobic (w00t)

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looks like tommy cooper in his younger days

 

[simpson]

Right then, it's the Cheltenham Gold Cup for you then son

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if some ppl had their way this would happen.............lol

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

Right then, it's the Cheltenham Gold Cup for you then son

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this little piggy went to market raisen

 

[sherry]

ive read this topic with great interest as i am a scratch racer ( although @ present dont do the bends) i have a 5 month old puppy out of nikkitason x ghd whose about 33lb and growing rapidly id like to think if she is too big 4 the straights i cud @ least race her on the bends wot do i do? do i bother registering her with the bwra or not? as tanyia said a while back if a dog is registered it is registerd 4 life so every effort shud b made 4 that particluar dog to race. but also as piglet ( i think it was) said who is going to cart 5 whippet traps up & down the country? hes right its very hard to get judges never mind find someone 2 cart 5 traps up & down the country. also why did this not go to a vote? 1st i heard about it was this topic ( obvioulsy i havent read my whippet news properly yet lol) wonder if the person who came up with this RIDICULOUS idea has a scratch dog? wot really p*ses me off is every year its the same old crap cant think of anything else * i know lets try & cap no limits* hmmmm no that hasnt worked wot can we do?* ok we will say we will use whippet traps on the bends so half of the no limits cant race one of the biggest classes. ive pmed gary just hope he gets it coz k9 plays up 4 me. i dont bend race but im on the scratch racers side. thankfully it seems the N.N.W.R.F have some sense @ least i know my pup will have somewhere she can run shud she go to big 4 the straights.

 

[i had a handful]

Please don't make me go in them little traps, you know I'm claustrophobic (w00t)

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looks like tommy cooper in his younger days

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[i had a handful]

Please don't make me go in them little traps, you know I'm claustrophobic (w00t)

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looks like tommy cooper in his younger days

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Did you mean Tommy Cooper or the other majitian Tony who can make a big dog fit a small trap

 

[simpson]

Please don't make me go in them little traps, you know I'm claustrophobic (w00t)

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looks like tommy cooper in his younger days

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Did you mean Tommy Cooper or the other majitian Tony who can make a big dog fit a small trap

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lol (w00t)

 

[milly]

Please don't make me go in them little traps, you know I'm claustrophobic (w00t)

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looks like tommy cooper in his younger days

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Did you mean Tommy Cooper or the other majitian Tony who can make a big dog fit a small trap

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Wished I'd thought of that one :thumbsup:

 

[hellbound]

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BWRA report jan's whippet news

A discussion took place concerning the weight of the scratch dogs, and after a long debate, T cooper pointed out that in 2003 the proposal was voted in that " scratch dogs"be allowed to run at any BWRA event if they can fit into the existing standard whippet traps. All future BWRA events, bends and straights will be run out of whippet traps whenever possible, as voted on at the reps meeting,

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if you look in jan 2004 the proposal report gave a list of proposal voted on, for and against

NO PROPOSAL WENT OUT ABOUT THE SIZE OF SCRATCH DOGS OR WHAT TRAPS THEY WOULD USE" WHIPPET OR GREYHOUND"

i was at the reps meeting and yes the size of scratch dog was decussed and it was said that if they can't fit into a whippet trap they should not run,

but i also said that dogs bred from greyhound to full whippet can make 65lb plus and we should not discriminate against any NON PED whippet because its gone above a set size ( IN THE NO LIMIT CLASS ), also it was not workable to take a set of block whippet traps and a set of single traps to bend champs, when most bend track already have block and single traps, why spend members money on moving traps when greyhound traps are available and non ped whippets have alwayS used them, a vote was taken that it was not workable to take whippets traps to bend opens :thumbsup:

can we have 2 welfare officers but actively encourage members to part with dogs they can't race because of restriction placed on the size of no limit dogs :wacko: any dog that can't fit into a whippet trap ( but racing on a greyhound track ) will not be allowed to race in the NON LIMIT CLASS, :wacko:

think you can trust the bwra committee and reps not to have voted this in :thumbsup:

 

[rodders]

Going on what Yvonne has said.I think we may be able to discount any rumours going about.Cause it stands to common sense that something voted in, in 2003 that has never been used since that time,SHOULD NOT be used now,and it appears the BWRA reps agree Karen

 

[mutley]

surly it would be easy for a bwra committee member to reply in k9 and lay it to rest lets hope common sense prevails

 

[NEILPEM]

too much trouble i think gaz,

BWRA RUNNING FOR YOU,LOL

 

[hellbound]

Going on what Yvonne has said.I think we may be able to discount any rumours going about.Cause it stands to common sense that something voted in, in 2003 that has never been used since that time,SHOULD NOT be used now,and it appears the BWRA reps agree Karen

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Karen thats what i'm saying it was never voted in on any proposal, :b so don't know where it come from,

but it stands to reason that the bwra committee can't transport a set of block whippet traps and a set of single traps when the track already have there own greyhound traps, that our dogs have always raced from :thumbsup:

 

[Paws123]

just spoke to tony cooper and he said that as far as he knows if they can get the whippet traps down there then that is what they will run out off :rant:

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Seems like it may not be rumours... spoke to some region reps and they seem to think its true

Maybe some one from the top table could answer or put a update on the bwra web site

 

[gary farmer]

Thank you for all your personal messages, they are all starting to come in now. We still need a lot more. Some of you have addressed them as if you are writing to me, I need these to be addressed to the BWRA rather than to me and I will send them altogether direct to the BWRA website. Please pass this on to those who do not have acess to the internet.

DON'T FORGET:

It is the members who run the BWRA not a handful of people on the committee, we need as many letters as possible.

Gary :rant:

 

[gary farmer]

Has anyone noticed at the bottom of these pages I quote:

'BRITISH WHIPPET RACING website of the BWRA that promotes Non ped. whippet racing in the UK'

Yes this is really promoting the sport!!!

 

[gary farmer]

When will the BWRA realise that scratch racing is on the increase and is a good promotion fcr the sport. In my opinion a scratch dog regardless of how it is bred is a non ped. whippet or whippet/greyhound that has not made the criteria of non ped whippet racing. This means it cannot run between the classes of 16-32 lbs so larger classes were made 36-40 lb no limit as a separate option to save owners having to get rid of a dog because it is too big. This dog will be used to breed at a later date to produce more scratch dogs or more whippets but NONE WILL BE EXCLUDED, this again in my opinion creates a healthy gene pool. MOLLY STAG TOP BROOD BITCH 2006 proves this.

When will certain people realise if they have a 36 lb dog under BWRA rules that happens to fit in a whippet trap then it should still be treated as a scratch dog and not as a whippet and the larger scratch dogs should not be forced to fit into a whippet trap just to give this dog an advantage

GAry farmer

 

[rodders]

It keeps coming back to the same thing.How to knock out the competition if you can't beat them in a race :rant: I for the life of me can't see any other reason as to why this should be done. :- "

Can someone from the commitee PLEASE explain the reason

Karen

 

[Paws123]

The way i see it is that when schooling or trailing a whippet on the bends , owners tend to use there local greyhound stadiums which 99.9% of the time don't have your bog standard whippet trap...so that means 99.9% of whippets no matter what size or weight are learn to bend race out of greyhound traps ...so why would owners even want whippet traps especially when the greyhound traps are electrical less chance of getting slow traps

 

[Tony Taylor]

When will the BWRA realise that scratch racing is on the increase and is a good promotion fcr the sport.   In my opinion a scratch dog regardless of how it is bred is a non ped. whippet or whippet/greyhound that has not made the criteria of non ped whippet racing.  This means it cannot run between the classes of 16-32 lbs so larger classes were made 36-40 lb no limit as a separate option to save owners having to get rid of a dog because it is too big.  This dog will be used to breed at a later date to produce more scratch dogs or more whippets but NONE WILL BE EXCLUDED, this again in my opinion creates a healthy gene pool.  MOLLY STAG TOP BROOD BITCH 2006 proves this.
When will certain people realise if they have a 36 lb dog under BWRA rules that happens to fit in a whippet trap then it should still be treated as a scratch dog and not as a whippet and the larger scratch dogs should  not be forced to fit into a whippet trap just to give this dog an advantage

GAry farmer

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Scratch racing might be on the increase but not in the No Limit on the bends it isn't. Just compare the number of entries for No Limit races on the bends with the number of entries for similar races on the straights. How many No Limit dogs was it for the last bend champs ? 2 ?

Straights and bends racing are different in a number of repects and one of the obvious ones is that straight races are run out of whippet traps. Now it would appear from the larger entries in straight racing that a significant number of No Limit dogs can actually fit in whippet traps so to say it's only 36lb that can fit in these traps isn't the case.

No doubt these No Limit dogs that race on the straights are just as useful for the gene pool. I can't actually think of any 7/8ths ghds that have contributed to the whippet gene pool though. I'm sorry but it's just not credible to say the intention of breeding 7/8ths ghd is to produce whippets.

If you want to find out why there is such antipathy towards No Limit dogs and why there are such low entries in bend No Limit races I think you need look no further than the use of ghd types in bend racing. Unsuprisingly the more voiciferous opponents of any change in the rules have a vested interest in the production and use of these ghd types.

My view is that there should be more weight splits for scratch racing and ghds should be allowed in the No Limit.

I'm suprised at how long it took before someone had read the small print in WN and discovered this little gem ( there's another in the small print) It's not as if it's the first time this has happened. We have proposals, AGMs, postal votes and reps meetings which all decide one thing then the committee go away and decide something else amongst themselves. It's not as if there's any accountability in a real sense either. Faces seem to magicaly appear on the top table without any input from the members.

The constitution needs changing to bring on long serving whippet racers onto the committee to vote on such matters without them needing to hold any particular office.