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Also found this one Billy!

As you know,i havent mentioned his racing name Nicola,foe reason's i hope you understand.But a few of know where you wee a couple of week's ago.[SIZE=14pt]Am going there myself,when the time is right[/SIZE].Cant mention his name in case someone does'nt want it getting out.But one thing i will say,is that if he throw's a better pup than Marty's Star,then they'll be hard to beat.Done a bit of playing with pix last night ,and ended up with a couple of good one's.This is one of the 2 of youre's that i

 

[milly]

Will be giving the pup's the 1st of their full course of inoculation.s tomorrw mate,as they had their 1st 6 week parvo jab a week n 1/2 ago.With so many cat's about here,and some of them with the old cat flu,i can't take any chances.Wonder how many more pup's have all their jab's before leaving for their new home's,as not many are even kept past 5/6 week's.Pup's are looking great Keith,and the big fawn (lazy)is almost 10lb.Have the phone sorted again,so will ring in a day or 2.  ...Billy...

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Anyone's pups in particular Billy, could it be the one's with the BIG heads and no body, and them that's not getting the quality food the breeder says he/her is giving them? If its the person I've got in mind I'll guarantee that should anything untoward happens to the pups they will be fully reimbursed by he/her.

Also they will be given a free pup or yearling fully schooled and ready to go.

I know second hand PMs and phone calls can be misconstrued, but theres never smoke without fire.

Geoff Fletcher, true to my friends and true to myself and keeping cool.

 

[peony]

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Ah Keith.Was getting very woried mate,as id not heard from you.Will be giving the pup's the 1st of their full course of inoculation.s tomorrw mate,as they had their 1st 6 week parvo jab a week n 1/2 ago.With so many cat's about here,and some of them with the old cat flu,i can't take any chances.Wonder how many more pup's have all their jab's before leaving for their new home's,as not many are even kept past 5/6 week's.Pup's are looking great Keith,and the big fawn (lazy)is almost 10lb.Have the phone sorted again,so will ring in a day or 2. ...Billy...

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Sorry to butt in here, but is it really worth you vaccinating Billy?? You had my pup done for me from your litter last year and if you remember, my vets laughed in my face and advised that to get complete peace of mind, the pup would need to have the course again as none of your batch numbers/ drugs used, matched up to requirements in this country. :wacko:

And didnt you tell me that you HAD to get both vaccinations done before the transporter would move them?? o

 

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[/quote)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ah Keith.Was getting very woried mate,as id not heard from you.Will be giving the pup's the 1st of their full course of inoculation.s tomorrw mate,as they had their 1st 6 week parvo jab a week n 1/2 ago.With so many cat's about here,and some of them with the old cat flu,i can't take any chances.Wonder how many more pup's have all their jab's before leaving for their new home's,as not many are even kept past 5/6 week's.Pup's are looking great Keith,and the big fawn (lazy)is almost 10lb.Have the phone sorted again,so will ring in a day or 2.  ...Billy...

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Billy, looks like you had a lucky escape a few weeks ago, I remember you saying that you rescued that dog from the side of the road o and brought it back to your kennels :wacko: and you having a litter of pups on the go was very risky. It could have brought that old cat flue with it, don't you think? Or do you have a quarantine kennel for your heroic deeds o I'm pleased we didn't have to read another tissue story from you :thumbsup: please keep up your good work with ways and strays.

Jayne :thumbsup:

 

[herby]

because at the end of the day its lurchur raceing not greyhound raceing im sorry billy but every one that has a bit of a problem with this does have a point  surely u must see that  trophy hunting is not the path to to take its a sport and if we all want to join your sport wed all have to run out and get greyhounds and i dont think the true sports men and women on this forum are likely to do that lurchur raceing would be lost  weres the sport in that this is just my way point of view of course not every one elses  ) all the best billy julie

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Welcome to the world of lurcher racing Julie Its just like any other sport.There are those taking part just for fun,but there are those that turn up to win.

Don't fall under the misconception that the more greyhound in a dog the more chance of it winning.If that was the case i'm sure Billy could proberbly quite easily lay his hands on a couple of good greyhounds to breed with.This is about having a chance to race something out of a proven good dog.Another example of this is Sugar Daddy/Tori(Hope you don't mind me mentioning this Rose) Tori is a brilliant bitch,and Rose quite rightly wanted the best to go across her,so she used Sugar Daddy.At the end of the day there is nothing better than competition :thumbsup: although occasionly it does bring out the worst in folks :lol: Karen

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You're spot on there Karen,and if Miss Ellie would have taken 3 month's ago,when Frankie n Nicole took her to the best early paced greyhopund in Ireland,ie,Ningbo Jack,then these also would have been bred to win.Not take 2nd place.They too would have been 15/16 greyhound.If that is what you have to race again'st to have any chance of winning,then you obviously shorten you're odd's.I did not go out looking for any bitch,dog,or pup,as i had just bred a litter.But as it happen's i was offered a gift that would serve me in many way's.ie,breeding,racing,and of course a companion and a totaly different bloodline to use with one of my pup's ,to hopefully produce future champ's.People have just missed all the pro's,and hit the con's spot on.Guilty before charged id say. ...Billy...

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i dont know how u work that out billy as 'Miss Ellie x Greyhound' makes a 7/8th NOT 15/16, as i explained this too you also on the non-ped section!! Also your own bitch Tara has the exact same amount of greyhound in her as Tori/ellie-may/whistler as she is Graham's Dreamx Greyhound! Grahams Dream is StagnightxGreyhound & so is Miss Ellie just different greyhounds were used! :thumbsup: which u have been racing for the past few years also!! :thumbsup:

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Hey,was'nt me who sat down with my great none mathematical mind and went back all those generation's to come up with the 15/16 as i was happy enough with 7/8.I did try,quite a few time's,but just took another's word for it in the end,as i was never good at percentages.I have never once denied Tara's breeding,and dont forget,i only bought her to stop Mr starve a dog to death from getting her,as he already had her bought.Funny thing about that man,he has purchased a few greyhound bitches at Derry track for breeding w/g,and they have all somehow dissapeared.Seem's i made the right choice when i took her before he got his hand's on her.I bought her after hearing she was no good too.But like youreself,i went the other way with her mating.Hope Tori has taken,as they also should be flyer's.Me think's it's time to start a none ped club,as the country will be stuffed with them next year.Let the proper lurcher's race together,which would be much farer,and im certain there will be enough none ped's,and full sight hound bred dog's to suffice another couple of bit's of plastic.Let's do it the way it's done across the water,and then there will not be an argument to argue about....Billy...

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billy you are joking here right ?! youve tortured everyone about frankies dogs breeding....!! are youi trying to say someone put these words in your mouth and made you say them ? nonsense youre judas escariot mate !

youre all ok with this this amonut of breeding now only because you see a way of winning again. you havent won in years and as far your judgement of distances ..well you need to get your eyes checked mate. year before last when ellie won all-ireland with colt and her on the line together you make out tara was in the frame....billy she was lacing her trainers on the starting line mate..ive got the video of the race !! blanket finish.. youre fav expression....mustve been a huge blanket. and as for tori only beating megan by 2 lengths the day of north downs show..well thats just ridiculous in the unders the only dog that was close was zena and what happened then..you argued about the height of zena !!!!!!!! megan wasnt anywhere so why do you keep saying she was..weve witnessed your distance calculation before and youre way way out.

in the little race between tori ernie and megan it was the same result..you werent near her...colts the only dog in the uk to have stayed with tori from start to finish.. same distance 2 lengths !

 

[markbrick]

What a topic!!!!!! Makes for some very interesting reading. The bottom line is Billy is entitled to do whatever he wishes, whether others believe in what he is doing is right or wrong, that's up to them to decide. Should he bring the pup in and rear it up, injury free, to racing age and it wins out of turn at the lurcher racing or even the non ped there will be the snidey remarks that's it's practically a greyhound and if it doesn't make the grade others will boast that their dog is faster than this superbly bred dog brought over from England etc etc etc Again Graham will have all these remarks made at him...more than likely behind his back...if the pups are raced with the non peds in England.It's the same old story...once a dog begins to win out of turn the breeding is questioned and then if there is no fault in the breeding the dog is doped to win every week...guess it all comes down to ethics.

Wouldn't be surprised if rules were introduced by some show organisers to limit the amount of greyhound parentage in lurcher rcaing.. :clown:

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Darren you are right :thumbsup: Billy can do what he wants and really I couldnt care less if he brings a proper full earmarked greyhound, but the point here is that he tortured certain people over their dogs and people are just using this chance to get their own back.

Also i notice that his good friend Markbrick hasnt said a word about it (Im not trying to start anything her by the way Mark) just stating the fact.

Lesson

DONT GIVE IT IF YOU CANT TAKE IT! (And I know Billy can take it)!!

Anyways Dazza im sure we'll speak soon

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WELL SINCE I WAS BROUGHT IN I WILL PUT MY PENNYS WORTH IN, most of you on here dont have lurchers,theres not a one of you who goes to a show and competes youre dogs in anything but straight racing and the odd sim race if its a straightish one to suit your non peds,there isnt a one of you on this forum who has won as much as me in the last 2 yrs ok my last to LW shows wernt fantastic but they got to the semis in the coarsing and came 1st in her 1st heat in the racing,you lot arnt breedin lurchers youre breedin unstamped greyhounds to race at lurcher shows wow we,who works there dogs on here not many how many have a dog that will do longjump,hurdles coarsing showing and straight racing???? allin one day,whos had are got a dog that has won all them in one day??????and whos got dogs that work ME ME and me i will remind you this is a lurcher page on k9 so iam on the correct page who else can say that??all the bickering that goes on on this site and as soon as you tell the truth youre warnin level goes up and youre on mod view,i got offered one of the best pups around last wk and in my hands there would be nothing to touch it i declined as it wasnt a lurcher and it would of excelled a straight racing it wouldnt at anything else and thats not my type of dog,so keep breedin youre plastic bag chasers and the best of luck to you all next yr,mark

 

[TOMTHUMB]

What a topic!!!!!! Makes for some very interesting reading. The bottom line is Billy is entitled to do whatever he wishes, whether others believe in what he is doing is right or wrong, that's up to them to decide. Should he bring the pup in and rear it up, injury free, to racing age and it wins out of turn at the lurcher racing or even the non ped there will be the snidey remarks that's it's practically a greyhound and if it doesn't make the grade others will boast that their dog is faster than this superbly bred dog brought over from England etc etc etc Again Graham will have all these remarks made at him...more than likely behind his back...if the pups are raced with the non peds in England.It's the same old story...once a dog begins to win out of turn the breeding is questioned and then if there is no fault in the breeding the dog is doped to win every week...guess it all comes down to ethics.

Wouldn't be surprised if rules were introduced by some show organisers to limit the amount of greyhound parentage in lurcher rcaing.. :clown:

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Darren you are right :thumbsup: Billy can do what he wants and really I couldnt care less if he brings a proper full earmarked greyhound, but the point here is that he tortured certain people over their dogs and people are just using this chance to get their own back.

Also i notice that his good friend Markbrick hasnt said a word about it (Im not trying to start anything her by the way Mark) just stating the fact.

Lesson

DONT GIVE IT IF YOU CANT TAKE IT! (And I know Billy can take it)!!

Anyways Dazza im sure we'll speak soon

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WELL SINCE I WAS BROUGHT IN I WILL PUT MY PENNYS WORTH IN, most of you on here dont have lurchers,theres not a one of you who goes to a show and competes youre dogs in anything but straight racing and the odd sim race if its a straightish one to suit your non peds,there isnt a one of you on this forum who has won as much as me in the last 2 yrs ok my last to LW shows wernt fantastic but they got to the semis in the coarsing and came 1st in her 1st heat in the racing,you lot arnt breedin lurchers youre breedin unstamped greyhounds to race at lurcher shows wow we,who works there dogs on here not many how many have a dog that will do longjump,hurdles coarsing showing and straight racing???? allin one day,whos had are got a dog that has won all them in one day??????and whos got dogs that work ME ME and me i will remind you this is a lurcher page on k9 so iam on the correct page who else can say that??all the bickering that goes on on this site and as soon as you tell the truth youre warnin level goes up and youre on mod view,i got offered one of the best pups around last wk and in my hands there would be nothing to touch it i declined as it wasnt a lurcher and it would of excelled a straight racing it wouldnt at anything else and thats not my type of dog,so keep breedin youre plastic bag chasers and the best of luck to you all next yr,mark

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BIRDS OF A FEATHER AND ALL THAT :wacko: :wacko: I'M A GOOD LAD I'AM.

FOR NOW SIT TIGHT, ROAD KILL :lol:

A REFORMED TOM o

 

[baby1]

What a topic!!!!!! Makes for some very interesting reading. The bottom line is Billy is entitled to do whatever he wishes, whether others believe in what he is doing is right or wrong, that's up to them to decide. Should he bring the pup in and rear it up, injury free, to racing age and it wins out of turn at the lurcher racing or even the non ped there will be the snidey remarks that's it's practically a greyhound and if it doesn't make the grade others will boast that their dog is faster than this superbly bred dog brought over from England etc etc etc Again Graham will have all these remarks made at him...more than likely behind his back...if the pups are raced with the non peds in England.It's the same old story...once a dog begins to win out of turn the breeding is questioned and then if there is no fault in the breeding the dog is doped to win every week...guess it all comes down to ethics.

Wouldn't be surprised if rules were introduced by some show organisers to limit the amount of greyhound parentage in lurcher rcaing.. :clown:

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Darren you are right :thumbsup: Billy can do what he wants and really I couldnt care less if he brings a proper full earmarked greyhound, but the point here is that he tortured certain people over their dogs and people are just using this chance to get their own back.

Also i notice that his good friend Markbrick hasnt said a word about it (Im not trying to start anything her by the way Mark) just stating the fact.

Lesson

DONT GIVE IT IF YOU CANT TAKE IT! (And I know Billy can take it)!!

Anyways Dazza im sure we'll speak soon

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WELL SINCE I WAS BROUGHT IN I WILL PUT MY PENNYS WORTH IN, most of you on here dont have lurchers,theres not a one of you who goes to a show and competes youre dogs in anything but straight racing and the odd sim race if its a straightish one to suit your non peds,there isnt a one of you on this forum who has won as much as me in the last 2 yrs ok my last to LW shows wernt fantastic but they got to the semis in the coarsing and came 1st in her 1st heat in the racing,you lot arnt breedin lurchers youre breedin unstamped greyhounds to race at lurcher shows wow we,who works there dogs on here not many how many have a dog that will do longjump,hurdles coarsing showing and straight racing???? allin one day,whos had are got a dog that has won all them in one day??????and whos got dogs that work ME ME and me i will remind you this is a lurcher page on k9 so iam on the correct page who else can say that??all the bickering that goes on on this site and as soon as you tell the truth youre warnin level goes up and youre on mod view,i got offered one of the best pups around last wk and in my hands there would be nothing to touch it i declined as it wasnt a lurcher and it would of excelled a straight racing it wouldnt at anything else and thats not my type of dog,so keep breedin youre plastic bag chasers and the best of luck to you all next yr,mark

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Mark Noone mentioned your dogs or said you never won anything, I am just wondering when you attacked people personally last year (And I was one of them) you had plenty to say, but nothing for Billy? Noone is really suprised though!

Good luck with your LURCHERS :luck: :luck:

 

[nettle]

What a topic!!!!!! Makes for some very interesting reading. The bottom line is Billy is entitled to do whatever he wishes, whether others believe in what he is doing is right or wrong, that's up to them to decide. Should he bring the pup in and rear it up, injury free, to racing age and it wins out of turn at the lurcher racing or even the non ped there will be the snidey remarks that's it's practically a greyhound and if it doesn't make the grade others will boast that their dog is faster than this superbly bred dog brought over from England etc etc etc Again Graham will have all these remarks made at him...more than likely behind his back...if the pups are raced with the non peds in England.It's the same old story...once a dog begins to win out of turn the breeding is questioned and then if there is no fault in the breeding the dog is doped to win every week...guess it all comes down to ethics.

Wouldn't be surprised if rules were introduced by some show organisers to limit the amount of greyhound parentage in lurcher rcaing.. :clown:

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Darren you are right :thumbsup: Billy can do what he wants and really I couldnt care less if he brings a proper full earmarked greyhound, but the point here is that he tortured certain people over their dogs and people are just using this chance to get their own back.

Also i notice that his good friend Markbrick hasnt said a word about it (Im not trying to start anything her by the way Mark) just stating the fact.

Lesson

DONT GIVE IT IF YOU CANT TAKE IT! (And I know Billy can take it)!!

Anyways Dazza im sure we'll speak soon

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WELL SINCE I WAS BROUGHT IN I WILL PUT MY PENNYS WORTH IN, most of you on here dont have lurchers,theres not a one of you who goes to a show and competes youre dogs in anything but straight racing and the odd sim race if its a straightish one to suit your non peds,there isnt a one of you on this forum who has won as much as me in the last 2 yrs ok my last to LW shows wernt fantastic but they got to the semis in the coarsing and came 1st in her 1st heat in the racing,you lot arnt breedin lurchers youre breedin unstamped greyhounds to race at lurcher shows wow we,who works there dogs on here not many how many have a dog that will do longjump,hurdles coarsing showing and straight racing???? allin one day,whos had are got a dog that has won all them in one day??????and whos got dogs that work ME ME and me i will remind you this is a lurcher page on k9 so iam on the correct page who else can say that??all the bickering that goes on on this site and as soon as you tell the truth youre warnin level goes up and youre on mod view,i got offered one of the best pups around last wk and in my hands there would be nothing to touch it i declined as it wasnt a lurcher and it would of excelled a straight racing it wouldnt at anything else and thats not my type of dog,so keep breedin youre plastic bag chasers and the best of luck to you all next yr,mark

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Feeling left out Mark go take a break and have a Kit Kat

Jayne

 

[~Helen~]

This thread has gone way off-topic and it looks as if everyone has had their say now.

 

Please only post on this thread if you want to talk about Billy's new litter.

 

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Ah Keith.Was getting very woried mate,as id not heard from you.Will be giving the pup's the 1st of their full course of inoculation.s tomorrw mate,as they had their 1st 6 week parvo jab a week n 1/2 ago.With so many cat's about here,and some of them with the old cat flu,i can't take any chances.Wonder how many more pup's have all their jab's before leaving for their new home's,as not many are even kept past 5/6 week's.Pup's are looking great Keith,and the big fawn (lazy)is almost 10lb.Have the phone sorted again,so will ring in a day or 2. ...Billy...

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Sorry to butt in here, but is it really worth you vaccinating Billy?? You had my pup done for me from your litter last year and if you remember, my vets laughed in my face and advised that to get complete peace of mind, the pup would need to have the course again as none of your batch numbers/ drugs used, matched up to requirements in this country. :wacko:

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And they'll have them both this time too before they go.As for youre vet.Did'nt you have to find another,as the one you had was useless.By the way,not one pup from the last litter whent down with anything,so i guess the innoculation's i used were spot on.There are hundred's of them uded in the biggest dog industry in the whole of Ireland,and you're so called vet was the first and only one i have ever heard knocking them.Then again,he buy's his in for a couple of pound's a shout,and take's the arm off everyone who he see's coming.I could say a lot more here but im not getting roped that easy.You got a cheap pup,whether you innoculated him again or not.And he was reared to perfection.Right or wrong.What he did after he left here was not my fault,he was only wanting to learn how pix were taken,when he accidently chewed up you're camera.Anyway,hope he does good next year.If anyone who's getting a pup dont want them jagged then they can let me know tonight,as im not doing them till last feeding time,around 11 pm.

 

[~Helen~]

Like I said a couple of posts back - please stay on topic or this thread will be closed. I've deleted a couple of posts which went against what I said. Those members know who they are. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt in case they "didn't understand" what I said. If they post again on this thread, off-topic, then their warning level will go up.

This thread is for talking about Billy's new litter. It's what he started the thread for, so do the man a favour and stop hijacking.

 

[Vicky]

By the way,not one pup from the last litter whent down with anything,so i guess the innoculation's i used were spot on.

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Not necessarily anything to do with the jabs that though is it Billy, none of mine are ever jabbed so young and i've never had any pups "go down with anything".

Might be worth noting also that to register with the BWRA / NNWRF you will need to provide your vaccination certificates which obviously will be signed by your vet. :thumbsup:

 

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By the way,not one pup from the last litter whent down with anything,so i guess the innoculation's i used were spot on.

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Not necessarily anything to do with the jabs that though is it Billy, none of mine are ever jabbed so young and i've never had any pups "go down with anything".

Might be worth noting also that to register with the BWRA / NNWRF you will need to provide your vaccination certificates which obviously will be signed by your vet. :thumbsup:

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It seem's that a bitches natural imunity start's to fall away at about 7 to 8 week's ,as that is the age at which most,(not all)pup's who go down with Parvo,if it's in the area.My nephew being the district dog warden has had his share of dead pup's to lift ,and that is usualy the age range.As cat's are the cause of a lot of different diseases,and this place is crawling with the thing's,i can't afford to take the chance,so i make sure,even though it cost's a couple of hundred for a big litter ,that my pup's are as safe as i can posibly keep them.It's not a certanty that they will not take anything that might be about,but i feel that it is my duty to do my utmost best for them.I also make sure of their booster's which is done through Brian Jone's at Lifford track,every year,and my bitches are alway's boostered before they are put in pup.Can even get a pic of them being boostered by Mr Jone's too if required,and if it turn's out nesessary to have the whole course again to keep with rule's ,then there is no problem.At preasant my main function with the pup's is to keep them fed,watered and safe,which i will do to the best of my ability.But thank's for that we bit of imfo about needing signature's n stuff,as it look's like Trouble might just fit the bill for a wee bit of fun in a couple of none ped races next year,to get me started,as she had her 1st run round a track tonight,and although it was only a handslip,i was quite impressed with how game she ran.Will put her in trap's next week. Billy

 

[wild whippies]

So long as Mr Jones is a qualified vet it shouldn't be an issue Billy.

The more likely reason your dogs contracted Parvo isn't from cats (old wive's tale) but simply from the fact that there's probably a higher amount of unvaccinated dogs within in Ireland and are acting as carriers of disease. Furthermore, as vaccinations are easily obtainable in Ireland there's a greater likelihood that the agents being used for vaccination are ineffective due to incorrect storage, expiry dates, incorrect agents being used and incorrect administration.

Looking forward to seeing these pups race in the UK :thumbsup:

 

[Miss Madam]

So long as Mr Jones is a qualified vet it shouldn't be an issue Billy.The more likely reason your dogs contracted Parvo isn't from cats (old wive's tale) but simply from the fact that there's probably a higher amount of unvaccinated dogs within in Ireland and are acting as carriers of disease. Furthermore, as vaccinations are easily obtainable in Ireland there's a greater likelihood that the agents being used for vaccination are ineffective due to incorrect storage, expiry dates, incorrect agents being used and incorrect administration.

Looking forward to seeing these pups race in the UK :thumbsup:

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hi jac would just like to know were u did your research on this as i was unaware off ireland having a higher rate of parvo? and how our vaccinations are ineffective etc?? :wacko: :unsure:

Rose

 

[wild whippies]

Hi Rose

I did say that Ireland probably has a higher incidence of unvaccinated dogs, this of course is purely anecdotal but I'd be interested in any documentation proving me wrong.

Certainly Billy's comments based on his Nephews observations does seem indicative of disease being on the increase and as a Dog Warden he'd probably be able to give an accurate statement of the situation at least within his locality.

In regards to the ineffectiveness of vaccines, my comments are with regards to administration by anyone other than a vet. I'd of thought my comments about storage etc being comprimised when unqualified agents were handling these drugs would be self-explanatory? :blink:

Unqualified individuals administering vaccinations does happen in England, I have a good friend within the :- " ''import / export'' business and their supplies do not come via England, or Scotland or Wales for that matter. So I hope this explains why I feel that Ireland has a higer incidence of unvaccinated dogs.

Jac

 

[nettle]

By the way,not one pup from the last litter whent down with anything,so i guess the innoculation's i used were spot on.so i make sure,even though it cost's a couple of hundred for a big litter ,that my pup's are as safe as i can posibly keep them.It's not a certanty that they will not take anything that might be about,but i feel that it is my duty to do my utmost best for them.I also make sure of their booster's which is done through Brian Jone's at Lifford track,every year,and my bitches are alway's boostered before they are put in pup.Can even get a pic of them being boostered by Mr Jone's too if required,and if it turn's out nesessary to have the whole course again to keep with rule's ,then there is no problem.At preasant my main function with the pup's is to keep them fed,watered and safe,which i will do to the be  Billy

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Billy, if your looking for a cost effective way to keep your pups safe, surely it makes more sense to take them to the vets, regardless of the size of the litter.

You've stated that it costs you a couple of hundred pounds for you to innoculate the pups yourself.

Well Billy, my vet will give a full course of innoculation's at £28 per pup so if you have 10 pups, I think you said you had 10? then that would cost you £280 :- "

Included in this price the pups get a full health check :thumbsup: ie. they listen for any heart murmurs, and they have their temperature taken :thumbsup:

And all this is done by someone with letters after their name ie B. Vet. Med.,M.R.CV.S. Veterinary Surgeon. (Not the letters D.I.Y)

Jayne

 

[billyboy45]

So long as Mr Jones is a qualified vet it shouldn't be an issue Billy.The more likely reason your dogs contracted Parvo isn't from cats (old wive's tale) but simply from the fact that there's probably a higher amount of unvaccinated dogs within in Ireland and are acting as carriers of disease. Furthermore, as vaccinations are easily obtainable in Ireland there's a greater likelihood that the agents being used for vaccination are ineffective due to incorrect storage, expiry dates, incorrect agents being used and incorrect administration.

Looking forward to seeing these pups race in the UK :thumbsup:

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OPP'S.Hold on a minute Jac.Who said my pup's contrcted Parvo.lol.Come on girl,read up.Did have it at another house over 10 year's ago mind.It was when we were having an extension built,and one of the workmen would spend 5 minute's with the pup's every morning,and also at tea break's,as he kept lurcher's himself.Then one night all went pear shaped,and the pup's went down.When he came back to work the following monday morning and found out the pup's were laying with Parvo,he proceded to tell me that he had just lost 2 litter's with it a fortnight beforehand.Icould probibly have taken the contractor or summit,but recond it would just have been a waste of time,as the bloke was working and drawing,and it would have meant trying to prove he was there in the 1st place.Wish my niece would have been in the job then,that she is now,as i would have been better imformed as to my right's.But there you go.As regard's the innoculation.s Jac,they come from the vet,and not just round the corner.The vet in ?,has a clinic in the north & south,and does most of his dog work down there,as the clinic up here is'nt as well kitted out.For thing's like docking,and dew claw's,it has to be carried out over the border where it's legal.Well thing is,if you have pup's dew claw's removed and you're pulled,you say they were done in the Republic,and that's that.The Mr Jone's i mentioned is different,he is more or less the top greyhound vet in ireland,and does all the big boy's dog's too.He has clinic's in Dublin Dundalk,Newry,and Lifford,which is right beside me,though he only be's there once a fortnight.If you are sending a racing greyhound across to england or whatever,then you must have a certificate stamped by him or some other greyhound vet ,as regard's inoculation's.If the vet himself,does the pup's,it will cost me £38.00,if i buy the vaccination's from him,and do them myself,it cost's me £20.00,and the 6 week Parvo jab is £7.00.Not bad concidering what it cost's elsewhere,and especialy over there.

 

[billyboy45]

By the way,not one pup from the last litter whent down with anything,so i guess the innoculation's i used were spot on.so i make sure,even though it cost's a couple of hundred for a big litter ,that my pup's are as safe as i can posibly keep them.It's not a certanty that they will not take anything that might be about,but i feel that it is my duty to do my utmost best for them.I also make sure of their booster's which is done through Brian Jone's at Lifford track,every year,and my bitches are alway's boostered before they are put in pup.Can even get a pic of them being boostered by Mr Jone's too if required,and if it turn's out nesessary to have the whole course again to keep with rule's ,then there is no problem.At preasant my main function with the pup's is to keep them fed,watered and safe,which i will do to the be  Billy

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Billy, if your looking for a cost effective way to keep your pups safe, surely it makes more sense to take them to the vets, regardless of the size of the litter.

You've stated that it costs you a couple of hundred pounds for you to innoculate the pups yourself.

Well Billy, my vet will give a full course of innoculation's at £28 per pup so if you have 10 pups, I think you said you had 10? then that would cost you £280 :- "

Included in this price the pups get a full health check :thumbsup: ie. they listen for any heart murmurs, and they have their temperature taken :thumbsup:

And all this is done by someone with letters after their name ie B. Vet. Med.,M.R.CV.S. Veterinary Surgeon. (Not the letters D.I.Y)

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The litter that went down with Parvo over 10 year's ago where all inoculated by one of these people with letter's behind their name,and when the pup's went down with it,i had another litter of 3 week's of age.First thing i did was ask if it would be of any help taking these pup's away to another place till they where properly covered or what i could do to try and save them,and i was told that there was a new stronger vaccine,that would go straight through the bitches own natural imunitie's,and that when the pup's were 5 week's old to bring them straight up.We pulled the first litter through,with pumping ISOLEC fluid's under their skin,every 2 hour's for 4/5 day's,to stop them dehydrating,as they could'nt keep nothing down,and there were too many to be put on drip#s,this was our only hope,and with the help of God,it worked.Our good Silver dog was one of these pup's.Only draw back was that because they were'nt getting Calcium,vitimin's n stuff,they went down with Ricket's a week after,and this also had to be cured.2 broke leg's before 4 month's of age,and Silver had to have all his met's pinned at 4n1/2 month's,on the front left.1 of the reason's i now do my own.