Racing/lure coursing

[neave]

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I think at the end of the day no matter if your whippet is a show dog, a working dog or a race dog the judge still has to judge the dog on the breed standard which is set by the kennel club.

If whippets were to be spilt into showing and racing, then the breed standard would have to be changed and i wouldnt welcomed that :rant: .

 

[Mark Roberts]

show bred whippets, mmm, i'll tell you summat now, ive been very reluctant to bring along my show bred whippet to have a bash at racing, cos i feel it in my bones that she will still be in the traps when yours have crossed the finnishing line, never the less im looking forward to giving her a go this year, lets not drive a wedge here between working showing or wot av you, a whippet is a whippet in my book, some fine looking racy muscular whippies out there what chance as jill got, eh, but she would love a go i know this.

Kieth your bitch will be fine, racing clubs run a club hcp which means regardless of whether youve got a world beater or a cart horse you'll still be in with a chance of winning.

at the Lancashire weve now introduced 2 grades of racing A & B to make races even fairer for all.

I agree 100% with Kieth we should all be pulling in the same direction so lets see a class opened up for true race bred whippets that way we can come along and be part of the worlds biggest & best dog show not just visitors standing about like outsiders?.

 

[Strike Whippets]

You'll have to qualify for Crufts like everyone else 1st, 2nd or 3rd in a qualifying class at a Championship show

When I asked someone at Crufts they said as the racing/lure coursing class was just a novelty class you just filled an entry form in there was no qualification to enter? can someone in the know let us know 100% what the rules are.

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The racing and lure coursing class qualifier is .....To have won a race at a WCRA affiliated club or a course at the BSFA ......

Connie and Miya would have been entered at Crufts this year if I'd known Connie didn't need her hock operated on .........But next year Connie and Vinnie will definatly be there as Miya has been in the past :thumbsup: ........It works out cheaper to enter a dog than to just pay to get in btw :- "

 

[Strike Whippets]

I think at the end of the day no matter if your whippet is a show dog, a working dog or a race dog the judge still has to judge the dog on the breed standard which is set by the kennel club.
If whippets were to be spilt into showing and racing, then the breed standard would have to be changed and i wouldnt welcomed that :rant: .

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The sad thing is though the kennel club change the breed standard as the show type Whippet changes ........If you look back to the early Whippet they were smaller, finer and looked like a typical racing bred dog .......So what is the breed standard ???? .....Original or altered to suit the show types ???? ......Off to buy a tin hat now and ban myself from k9 .........

 

[TC]

......Off to buy a tin hat now and ban myself from k9 .........

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[Mark Roberts]

The racing and lure coursing class qualifier is .....To have won a race at a WCRA affiliated club or a course at the BSFA

Now not wanting to be a trouble causer but why did it take a racing person to answer my question? surely all the show people know what the requirments are?

Thanks Hannah, think we'll enter Mo & Max next year have a bit of fun by joining in, best get some weight off and some nice cloths or should I turn out in check shirt and wellies?

 

[rooney turbo dog]

I think racing is prob' best mark...."your dogs either fast or it isnt"......makes it much easier.......i agree though with the situation in the racing showing class.....i'd love to go in it if it was done proper- at the mo' its like the veteran class........cant let a whip' get too much muscle nowadays....

 

[Strike Whippets]

LOL .....I brought a suit when I showed Miya (who in my opinion is good enough to show :thumbsup: ) ...... There ARE racing breds out there that are also good enough for the ring though most won't waste their money to be chucked out.......The biggest fault our racers have is they are too small (though they will all be to the kc breed standard height wise ) .......and at companion shows its amazing how many judges place Connie and Miya OVER show breds because (I know they aren't breed specialists) but my girls look like their idea of proper Whippets to them .......Even Reggie had 3rd in the puppy class at Frampton last year out of a big class ......beating a Whippet that had as a baby qualified for Crufts :- " .......

So see you at Crufts then Mark .......But please don't stand that huge Mo next to my Connie as shes going to look dwarfed enough at her whopping 18.5" next to the show racers

 

[Mark Roberts]

But please don't stand that huge Mo next to my Connie

Cheeky sod Mo's only 19 1/4"

 

[Paula Roberts]

Mark bought a grooming table from crufts and we had them all standing on it today, :lol: and i know i"m biased but Mo did look very good, max and Lucy looked ok wonder if its because a all over colour looks better than a parti colour. :blink:

 

[Strike Whippets]

But please don't stand that huge Mo next to my Connie

Cheeky sod Mo's only 19 1/4"

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OMG ......Does this mean shes actually breed standard size ??? .....and racing bred and all :- " :lol:

 

[larruu]

The racing and lure coursing class qualifier is .....To have won a race at a WCRA affiliated club or a course at the BSFA

Now not wanting to be a trouble causer but why did it take a racing person to answer my question? surely all the show people know what the requirments are?

Thanks Hannah, think we'll enter Mo & Max next year have a bit of fun by joining in, best get some weight off and some nice cloths or should I turn out in check shirt and wellies?

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Not sure that that isnt a further neccessary qualification in addition to having to qualify as per Jo's post. To be honest i hope you are right then all you racers can turn up in your hundreds and stop whinging. OFF TO THE TIN HAT SHOP WITH HANNAH :- "

 

[Macha]

maybe show whippets shouldn't be allowed to gain championships unless they can pass a racing test (that they will chase the lure and reach a set minimum speed according to their age and size at the time of the trial)?

or -this would be easier - a new qualification could be instituted for whippets who win a certain amount of prizes at BOTH shows and racing or coursing. something like the ShCM but encompassing both beauty and speed competitions.

 

[Strike Whippets]

Mark bought a grooming table from crufts and we had them all standing on it today, :lol:   and i know i"m biased but Mo did look very good, max and Lucy looked ok wonder if its because a all over colour looks better than a parti colour. :blink:

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LOL ......No Blacks are just natural class ......I'd dust off your old Fawn for showing though if I was you

 

[TC]

The racing and lure coursing class qualifier is .....To have won a race at a WCRA affiliated club or a course at the BSFA

Now not wanting to be a trouble causer but why did it take a racing person to answer my question? surely all the show people know what the requirments are?

Thanks Hannah, think we'll enter Mo & Max next year have a bit of fun by joining in, best get some weight off and some nice cloths or should I turn out in check shirt and wellies?

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Not sure that that isnt a further neccessary qualification in addition to having to qualify as per Jo's post. To be honest i hope you are right then all you racers can turn up in your hundreds and stop whinging. OFF TO THE TIN HAT SHOP WITH HANNAH :- "

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Please don't enter online, as you will have to advise where your qualification was granted to complete your application i.e. at which show you were placed 1st, 2nd or 3rd etc etc, as per Jo's post.

If the only qualification were the racing event and coursing class wins, Winx could have come out to play as he's done both :thumbsup:

 

[Paula Roberts]

Do you know Hannah thats the only critisism i have of Mo her colour, (w00t) now if she was FAWN she"d be PERFECT, :wub: i"m just off to see if Sam can be bothered to get up and stand on the table. -_-

 

[Mark Roberts]

To be honest i hope you are right then all you racers can turn up in your hundreds and stop whinging

Nah we'd find something else to moan about :thumbsup:

But being serious dont you think it would be nice to involve more race breds just for the fun of it as at the end of the day whether racing showing lure coursing we all only do it for a bit of fun? DON'T WE!

 

[Strike Whippets]

The racing and lure coursing class qualifier is .....To have won a race at a WCRA affiliated club or a course at the BSFA

Now not wanting to be a trouble causer but why did it take a racing person to answer my question? surely all the show people know what the requirments are?

Thanks Hannah, think we'll enter Mo & Max next year have a bit of fun by joining in, best get some weight off and some nice cloths or should I turn out in check shirt and wellies?

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Not sure that that isnt a further neccessary qualification in addition to having to qualify as per Jo's post. To be honest i hope you are right then all you racers can turn up in your hundreds and stop whinging. OFF TO THE TIN HAT SHOP WITH HANNAH :- "

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No thats it .......Though you do have to give the date and club you qualified at ......Not that I'd imagine this is checked ......I even took Miyas passport to prove she was definatly a racer but the judge never even looked at it .....He told me she was very nice and said she had big muscles :blink:

 

[Mark Roberts]

Right Children i'm off out play nice & NO FIGHTING!

 

[Angela Bayley]

You'll have to qualify for Crufts like everyone else 1st, 2nd or 3rd in a qualifying class at a Championship show  :thumbsup:

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Yes, I think that is the case as well.

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Not quite so.

I entered Crufts online (as I have done in previous years).

Two of my dogs (Silkdance Highland Affair and Shuleah Singing In The Rain) are qualified, one having a stud book number, the other gaining a third in PGB.

My third bitch (Denelsie Rainbow Princess) qualified solely as a coursing bitch, having won a stake within days of the ban and was only eligible for the r/c class. (She wasn't placed. :x ) I was asked to provide her qualification details, and they were accepted.

This is the procedure I have followed for the last ~ five years. If anyone wants to challenge my placings go ahead.

AIUI the problem is that pedigree whippet racing and coursing (at least until the ban) are/were organised by clubs affiliated to the Whippet Club, and results are verified and published under these auspices. This doesn't as yet apply to lure coursing.

The remedy as in most things is simple - RTFM - or, in simple terms, read the classification.